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Re: SHIC

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Jon Pratty <[log in to unmask]>

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Museums Computer Group <[log in to unmask]>

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Tue, 1 May 2012 17:11:17 +0000

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Good question Anra

I think any attempt to make connections across to the NC would be enormously useful. 

I don't think it matters that the NC is out of date; the point is that it forms a mapping point or conceptual index that almost everything else can be joined to.

JP 

Sent From My Blackberry Handheld.

----- Original Message -----
From: Anra Kennedy [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 06:07 PM
To: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: SHIC

Hi Nick, Richard et al

With ref to below Nick, I know it's a stretch, but any chance of the
Culture Grid Vocab Bank also taking on the National Curriculum
vocabularies? Especially with the rumblings around the Henley Review
there must be museums who'd find this useful? 

Sad as it is, I find myself missing the old Becta Vocab Bank -  see
http://developer.k-int.com/bank/index.php?page=about for the ghost of
some educational vocabs. And I do believe it was Knowledge Integration
who built the system for Becta so might they have the curriculum ones
rattling around a drawer somewhere? 

Or does anyone else on the list know where the vocabs went? Presumably
commercial software suppliers must need/use them? We have the last
version of KS1-4 published by QCA/Becta before everything crumbled
within Culture24's system but I don't know how up-to-date they are...
any pointers gratefully received.

Thanks, 
Anra


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-----Original Message-----
From: Museums Computer Group [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
Nick Poole
Sent: 01 May 2012 17:52
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: SHIC

Hi Richard, 

Thanks for the prompt! Yes, Collections Trust and the Social History
Curators Group have been working to develop an electronic version of
SHIC that can be used both as a reference tool but also as a
machine-readable vocabulary.

In fact (whispers) our partners Knowledge Integration have already
integrated the current version of SHIC into the Culture Grid Vocab Bank
- go to http://culturegrid.lexaurus.net/culturegrid/browse and scroll
down. You can browse the structure, and also download the vocabulary as
an XML document. The longer-term aim of the Vocab Bank is to provide
web-service access to a range of SKOSified vocabularies, but the
interest in this from museums has been pretty muted - I'd love to know
whether there is an appetite for this stuff before we go ahead and
invest in developing it!

SHCG's aim is to use this current version to develop an updated version.
The original SHIC Working Party do retain an interest in its
development, and we are currently negotiating how best to take the
development of SHIC forward. 

I hope this helps, and I'd welcome views on the next steps with the
Vocab Bank!

Nick 



-----Original Message-----
From: Museums Computer Group [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
Richard Light
Sent: 01 May 2012 17:42
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: SHIC

Robin,

Yes, I have a version of SHIC which I have lovingly reconstructed from
various sources (with considerable help from Stuart, who I am sure /is
/still out there), and which now lives happily in a Modes data file as a
set of XML records.  That's the good news.

However, I am not sure what the status of this version is, and whether I
would be free to let you have a copy.  Collections Trust and the SHCG
have been expressing an interest in SHIC of late, and of course the
original SHIC Working Party might still want to have a say.  There is
the idea of SKOS-ifying SHIC.  Would anyone care to comment?

At a practical level, would a dump of SHIC as an XML document be of use
to you?

Richard

On 01/05/2012 17:26, Robin Patel wrote:
> Hello All
>
> Second time poster, long time lurker.
>
> Very quick question: Does anyone have a digital version of SHIC they 
> could identify and (potentially) lead us to? We are in the midst of a 
> retrospective documentation project and, apart from developing our own

> in-house classification, we feel that SHIC fits the bill for the types

> of collections we are dealing with. I have a hardcopy 2nd ed. here, 
> but I would rather have something searchable without resorting to the 
> pitfalls of OCR.
>
> I have contacted Stuart via his website, but I fear that email is 
> longer active...
>
> Many Thanks :-)
>
> Robin
>
>

--
*Richard Light*

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