Shouldn't we agree one though as JLern submitters? I'm not sure early
submitters creating a standard sounds like a good idea
On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 7:59 PM, Scott Wilson
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> On 6 Apr 2012, at 19:36, Daniel Rehak wrote:
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> Pat
>
> We started with the activity streams model, and then extended it -- so LR
> paradata can be mapped to AS, but it will be lossey.
>
> In LR we ask for people to submit one piece of data at a time, but the full
> paradata spec does use the packaging model from AS to bundle things. But
> none of LR uses that.
>
> LR doesn't have a standard strategy for what to submit -- e.g., each event,
> an incremental time summary/aggregate over some period (each week, each
> month), a cumulative summary "to date". We wanted the community to be able
> to do what they think is best.
>
>
> Sounds like a sensible approach.
>
> For our use in widget/app stores we'll be using individual events for user
> reviews, but for downloads and embeds we'll probably use aggregate-to-date
> stats . As we encounter other UCs we'll have to decide which is the
> appropriate model to use.
>
> - Dan
>
> On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 13:53, Pat Lockley <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
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>> After my last post I went to read the LR "Paradata in 20 seconds"
>> google doc. It seems to delineate the LR paradata from
>> activitystrea.ms by aggregating the actions together (the examples are
>> monthly). Of course we could submit something else, but I don't think
>> we have a standard schema / policy for this.
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 6:32 PM, Scott Wilson
>> <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> > On 6 Apr 2012, at 16:56, Pat Lockley wrote:
>> >
>> >> I think turning the ramanathan or Jeffrey Hill's LRPHP (see github)
>> >> into an API would be really simple, but I am unsure of what the best
>> >> publishing policy is? If it's metadata packaged up, I would guess we
>> >> should delete our metadata package before we add a new one - but that
>> >> seems open to conjecture? Also if we submit paradata, is it per act,
>> >> or per month, and do we maintain a core paradata package with all the
>> >> data in?
>> >
>> > I've been working on a Java lib for publishing and synching LR paradata,
>> > specifically ratings (reviews and downloads still to go): for ratings I've
>> > assumed one paradata record per rating on the assumption that ratings and
>> > comments go hand in hand so its worth keeping them as individual records
>> > with actor-measure-subject. However I can also see the case for doing
>> > summaries (e.g. "in our store this app has an average rating of 3.2 from a
>> > sample of 43 ratings") so will probably add some support for that too.
>> >
>> > In any case I have to filter to remove earlier updates, e.g. see:
>> >
>> >
>> > http://scottbw.wordpress.com/2012/04/05/spaws-initial-code-hands-on-with-the-learning-registry/
>> >
>> > Code is at:
>> >
>> > https://github.com/scottbw/spaws
>> >
>> > (& in sonatype snapshots repo for all you Maven fans)
>> >
>> > Putting this lib behind a web API would be pretty easy if you wanted to.
>> > I guess the main value-added is the de-duplication and filtering.
>> >
>> > S
>> >
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 11:02 AM, Julian Tenney
>> >> <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> >>> What would be really helpful for us is a leg-up with the technology
>> >>> side of
>> >>> things. What we would like to do is add some pages to our example at
>> >>> http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/play_560 to ask users to rate the
>> >>> resource, maybe comment on it and then push that info into the LR.
>> >>> What we
>> >>> would really like is some easy method of doing that, I’m thinking
>> >>> about some
>> >>> simple API call I can make. I have Pat’s ‘post data to the LR’ php
>> >>> code, but
>> >>> it would be much simpler for me to call a service, and I think for
>> >>> others
>> >>> too. We could also explore publishing a resource into the LR from
>> >>> toolkits,
>> >>> again an API to call would make this easy, and would facilitate
>> >>> building
>> >>> other tools by which data can be added to the node, be them widgets,
>> >>> gizmos,
>> >>> whatever,
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> From: Open Educational Resources [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>> >>> On
>> >>> Behalf Of Sarah Currier
>> >>> Sent: 03 April 2012 10:03
>> >>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> >>> Subject: JISC OER RI projects working with the JLeRN on Learning
>> >>> Registry
>> >>> stuff
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Hello all,
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> See below for link to (and text of) JLeRN blog post on OER Rapid
>> >>> Innovation
>> >>> projects working with JLeRN and/or the Learning Registry.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Had a brief chat with Suzanne Hardy at the end of the Programme
>> >>> Meeting last
>> >>> week about what might help these projects, and any others interested
>> >>> in
>> >>> JLeRN / The Learning Registry.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Can you please shout if (a) you have an OER RI (or any OER) project
>> >>> interested in this stuff and I haven’t mentioned you in the blog post,
>> >>> and
>> >>> (b) if you have an idea of what might be helpful for you to move on
>> >>> with
>> >>> this aspect of your project.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Suzanne and I were just thinking, maybe a kick-off virtual meeting of
>> >>> some
>> >>> kind (with CETIS input too).
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks
>> >>>
>> >>> Sarah
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> From: Sarah Currier [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>> >>> Sent: 03 April 2012 09:55
>> >>> To: Sarah Currier
>> >>> Subject: Fwd: Some new UK-based JISC projects working with the JLeRN
>> >>> on
>> >>> Learning Registry stuff
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> >>> From: Sarah Currier <[log in to unmask]>
>> >>> Date: 3 April 2012 09:54
>> >>> Subject: Some new UK-based JISC projects working with the JLeRN on
>> >>> Learning
>> >>> Registry stuff
>> >>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Hello all,
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> For those who don't follow the JLeRN blog, thought you might be
>> >>> interested
>> >>> in these new JISC-funded projects (blog post
>> >>> here:
>> >>> http://jlernexperiment.wordpress.com/2012/04/03/jlern-and-the-jisc-oer-rapid-innovation-projects/
>> >>> ).
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Text of post here:
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> JLeRN and the JISC OER Rapid Innovation Strand
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> The HE Academy / JISC OER3 Programme‘s new Rapid Innovation strand
>> >>> projects
>> >>> kicked off last week in London at the Programme Meeting. We are
>> >>> thrilled
>> >>> that there are four projects within the strand who want to work with
>> >>> us on
>> >>> Learning Registry related developments.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> With only four months left for JLeRN, we want to make the most of the
>> >>> time
>> >>> we have, and participating in well-thought-out projects meeting real
>> >>> requirements in the OER space seems like a good way to consolidate
>> >>> what
>> >>> we’ve learned so far. All of these projects involve folk who supported
>> >>> us by
>> >>> coming to the Hackday in January and the CETIS Conference Learning
>> >>> Registry
>> >>> session in February so it’ll be nice to give something back.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> The four projects we are working with are as follows (NB: There were a
>> >>> few
>> >>> other sparks of interest in the OER Rapid Innovation projects’
>> >>> breakout
>> >>> session, so I think we may pick up a few more along the way: don’t be
>> >>> shy to
>> >>> get in touch if you’d like to work with us):
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Rapid Innovation Dynamic Learning Maps-Learning Registry (RIDLR)
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Based at Newcastle University, and led by Simon Cotterill, this
>> >>> project will
>> >>> build on their Dynamic Learning Maps work, and their FavOERites social
>> >>> bookmarking project, to develop “open APIs to harvest and release
>> >>> paradata
>> >>> on OER from end-users (bookmarks, tags, comments, ratings and reviews
>> >>> etc.)
>> >>> from the Learning Registry and other sources for specific topics,
>> >>> within the
>> >>> context of curriculum and personal maps.”
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Sharing Paradata Across Widget Stores (SPAWS)
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Based at Bolton University (with partners KMi (Open University); IMC
>> >>> AG,
>> >>> Saarbruecken; Katholieke Universiteit Leuven, Belgium) and led by
>> >>> Scott
>> >>> Wilson, this project will use the Learning Registry infrastructure to
>> >>> share
>> >>> paradata in the form of user views, reviews and ratings about
>> >>> educational
>> >>> widgets across four existing widget stores.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Xerte Experience Now Improved: Targeting HTML5 (XENITH)
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Based at Nottingham University (with partners JISC TechDIS, EDINA and
>> >>> Mimas
>> >>> (us!)), and led by Julian Tenney, this project builds on the Xerte
>> >>> Online
>> >>> Toolkits, which integrates directly with the Xpert Repository. As an
>> >>> adjunct
>> >>> to its main development work, it will explore sharing metadata and
>> >>> paradata
>> >>> about Xerte resources with the Learning Registry.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Track OER: Tracking Open Educational Resources
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Based at the Open University, and led by Patrick McAndrew, this
>> >>> project aims
>> >>> to “develop software that can help track open educational resources”
>> >>> as they
>> >>> are used away from their point of origin. JLeRN has already entered
>> >>> discussions with them to ensure mutual affordances are identified.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> In addition to these projects, the University of Liverpool will soon
>> >>> be
>> >>> working with the JLeRN team to set up their own node. As well as
>> >>> assisting
>> >>> with meeting Liverpool’s requirements, this will enable JLeRN to
>> >>> experiment
>> >>> with sharing data between nodes at different locations. Work with
>> >>> Jorum will
>> >>> continue, and discussions have begun with the JISC Resource Discovery
>> >>> Programme to widen the reach of the Learning Registry concept. Watch
>> >>> out for
>> >>> blog posts on all of these activities!
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Cheers all, comments and questions welcome: the blog post has project
>> >>> links
>> >>> in it.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Sarah
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> --
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Sarah Currier | Jorum Technical Coordinator (R&D Projects) | JLeRN
>> >>> Experiment Project Lead
>> >>>
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