ha. oddly this and the various strands on this list, (or perhaps not so ) , have lifted my spirits on a dark day: great to havve robust discussion of significant ideas and values.
Annie
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From: The UK Community Psychology Discussion List [[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Penny Priest [[log in to unmask]]
Sent: 20 March 2012 18:26
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Subject: Re: [COMMUNITYPSYCHUK] the corruption of medicine, and of our email discourse
I think we should all get together in real life and watch Celebrity Gypsy
Fat Swap - I'm sure that would make us all feel a lot better!
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Cromby" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2012 2:55 PM
Subject: Re: [COMMUNITYPSYCHUK] the corruption of medicine, and of our email
discourse
> Tom many thanks for the hat news, I'll bear it in mind next time I'm
> tonsorially challenged.
>
> I'm sure there's a large element of truth in what you say about the
> feelings that our exchanges enact, inculcate and suppress, and some truth
> too in what you say about how and why they are being played out here.
> Falling prey to 'the narcissism of minor differences' is a widely
> recognised danger for most specialised interest groups.
>
> At the same time this is a discussion list: by definition one of its
> functions is to debate. Despite the alexithymic fantasies of the
> cognitivists that's impossible without feelings being invoked and
> circulated. I was genuinely surprised by Richard's dismissal of Craig's
> comment, just as I'm now puzzled by his reply, and that presumably came
> across. Is that a bad thing? People will perhaps have different views, but
> I don't think that those views should preclude discussion (nor
> acknowledgement of them deflect it).
>
> I guess another way of putting this is to re-iterate - as has been said on
> other threads - that it isn't personal: its about the ideas.
>
> If we were collectively more passionate about ideas - and correspondingly
> less passionate about X-Factor, Celebrity Gypsy Fat Swap and the like -
> perhaps the relevance of capitalism to distress would not need to be
> restated...
>
> J.
>
>
>
> On 20/03/2012 14:13, Tom Wengraf wrote:
>> Just to say that in nearly every new email in this exchange so far I feel
>> the level of felt pain needing expression constantly rising and the
>> danger
>> of destructive 'explosion' rising as well. I feel that most of those
>> involved share a broadly similar approach (as psychologists concerned for
>> something partly conveyable by 'community') but that frustration at the
>> inroads of contemporary capitalism and anger at the 'differences within'
>> are
>> producing the emotional feel of 'sectarianism' when people collectively
>> under great pressure tear at those quite near to them because the
>> pressure
>> from 'the enemy' and the societal distance from 'the enemy' makes it all
>> come out on those nearest. (and the disembodied publication-by-email mode
>> enables the feelings to be less carefully expressed and experienced as
>> more
>> hurtful and disrespectful). A 'community psychology' struggling both to
>> understand and reduce the intensification of fury and contempt and 'felt
>> betrayal' among 'community psychologists' so painfully and so
>> pain-inducing
>> writing to each other seems to me to be very important.
>>
>> Best wishes
>>
>> Tom
>>
>> P.S. For news about hats, click on http://www.katiawengraf.com/
>>
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>>
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>> Please indicate your institutional affiliation and the purpose for which
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: The UK Community Psychology Discussion List
>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of John Cromby
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2012 11:16 AM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: the corruption of medicine
>>
>> Richard, I am stunned that you can so breezily dismiss the relevance to
>> clinical psychologists of what you describe as 'going on about
>> capitalism'. It strains credulity to imagine that you sincerely believe
>> that your practice, their practice, the lives, experiences and distress
>> of clients are somehow disconnected from the social and economic
>> arrangements that produce the conditions in which all of us act, and
>> which therefore - over time, because doing shapes being - help produce
>> the kinds of person we are able to be. The evidence linking economic
>> factors to the prevalence of distress is overwhelming and Wilkinson&
>> Pickett's work, for example, is just the most recent high profile
>> contribution to this massive and influential body of literature.
>>
>> The harmful aspects of capitalist social relations persist in large part
>> because people are systematically misled about the conditions under
>> which they live and work: not by some grand conspiracy, but - as Chomsky
>> and other analysts have shown - by a simple confluence of overlapping
>> interests which are not homogenous nut nevertheless frequently share
>> important tendencies and directions.
>>
>> In this context your assertion about the conceptual frameworks of
>> trainees (and I do wonder how you can actually know these) is deeply
>> troubling. Leaving aside for one moment the directly ideological aspects
>> of your claim, clinically it suggests that you would be happy for
>> trainees to just ignore the evidence base linking distress to economic
>> factors and instead simply deploy their own idiosyncratic frameworks -
>> and in the process mystifying service users about the nature of their
>> difficulties. Even if this did not actually produce a form of
>> victim-blaming - and many clinicians would argue that it inevitably does
>> - it seems unlikely to be very helpful.
>>
>> For clarity I want to make clear that I'm absolutely not arguing that we
>> reduce people's distress to capitalist social relations. I'm simply
>> arguing against your apparent suggestion that we can understand people's
>> distress without reference to the social and material influences upon
>> them.
>>
>> J.
>>
>>
>> On 20/03/2012 10:43, richard pemberton wrote:
>>> I don't really see how you can criticise people for wanting to
>>> alleviate distress. Its a basic human instinct. I also don't think the
>>> psychology job market is decreasing. What is more concerning is the
>>> industrialisation of care and and the corruption of evidence. Your
>>> practice must have been
>>> really odd if it was easier than ceiling tiling! Going on about
>>> capitalism to the new generations coming up is a bit of a problem and
>>> not a very skilled psychological approach? They have their own
>>> conceptual frameworks.
>>> Perhaps the group should be renamed the relay for subjugated
>>> discourses and dispositifs of resistance and the silencing of
>>> ideologically problematic dominant discourses!
>>> The interesting word here is relay. What does that mean? How are we
>>> relaying what to whom? Relay is quite a passive word?
>>> I hear the silence.
>>>
>>> Richard Pemberton
>>>
>>> On 3/20/12, CRAIG NEWNES<[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>> Richard, I didn't get out. I was too exhausted to continue and kind of
>> fell
>>>> out. I remain in only in the sense that I still edit JCPCP but it is
>>>> very
>>>> difficult to see how a group of essentially middle-class UK
>>>> psychologists
>>>> could (or even should) change anything as if they somehow know what is
>>>> better. The various community activists in the old Shropshire Dept of
>>>> Psychological Therapies were people who were active locally and
>> politically
>>>> anyway - psychology or a nursing qualification was merely their ticket
>>>> to
>>>> ride. Of the 85 folk in the Dept, perhaps 20 were serious advocates for
>>>> change from a social/critical/communal position. Many of the rest were
>>>> part-time and supplemented their pay through individual, often
>>>> person-centred, counselling. Otur psychiatrist had given up the right
>>>> to
>>>> prescribe and Section but she lived with a GP who made good money
>>>> through
>>>> diagnosis and prescription. The model for at least Clinical Psychology
>>>> in
>> so
>>>> called mental health is
>>>> American - see individuals, get them to strive at self improvement
>>>> and
>>>> presto! A person ready to rejoin the search for future wealth. I talked
>> with
>>>> 000s of Psychs over a period of 25 years on the lecture circuit. There
>> were
>>>> few who saw psychology as part of the problem, preferring instead the
>> myth
>>>> that psychiatry is the big bad wolf. Guy Holmes and I were twice asked
>>>> by
>>>> 2nd year trainees why we kept mentioning capitalism and were several
>> times
>>>> told we were the ONLY visiting lecturers who were critical of
>>>> psychology.
>>>> I've been out four years but I still do the ocasional talk - things
>>>> seem
>>>> worse now as trainees play the game even more furiously in an ever
>>>> decreasing job market. I don't blame them - after all I became a psych
>>>> because it was easier than being a ceiling tiler - but I don't need to
>> watch
>>>> them join the gravy train on the back of "alleviating distress."
>>>> Craig
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ________________________________
>>>> From: richard pemberton<[log in to unmask]>
>>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, 20 March 2012, 8:43
>>>> Subject: Re: [COMMUNITYPSYCHUK] the corruption of medicine
>>>>
>>>> Hi Craig
>>>>
>>>> I don't have enormous faith in the BPS or Psychology/ists. Psychology
>>>> has never made any sense to me in isolation from politics anthropology
>>>> philosphy economics etc. But I don't know how you make sense of them
>>>> without psychology? You are right I am over extrapolating from my own
>>>> experience of applied psychologists to the whole gang. A lot of people
>>>> are trapped in systems of care that are intrinsically problematic and
>>>> damaging. Working to change them from the inside is exhausting often
>>>> dispiriting and at the moment additionally stressful. It is good to be
>>>> out the NHS and you are right it is easier to see things for what they
>>>> are from the outside. I am clear however clear that I have not left
>>>> behind a load of money grabbing ECT promoting people who are more part
>>>> of the problem that the solution. Psychology and Applied Psychology is
>>>> a bound to be caught up in the dominant narratives and lunacies of the
>>>> time? The branding and marketing of the psychological therapies is as
>>>> crass as the marketing of drugs. Healy has also got me interested in
>>>> the corruption of academia and science in psychology. How did the EMDR
>>>> brand get Nice approval?
>>>>
>>>> Our collective failure to understand the inherently social nature of
>>>> despair disappointment and maddening care or abuse is disappointing
>>>> and some many disastrous. Big Psy has quite a case to answer here.
>>>> Little Psy maybe needs to sharpen its act?
>>>>
>>>> I am saying to my mates I am fed up with swimming against the tide. I
>>>> may be barking but I do sense the tide is turning. Critical/Community
>>>> psychology could and should be playing a key role in hammering home in
>>>> the inherently social and justice foundations of good enough and great
>>>> individual and community life.
>>>>
>>>> I am for my sins running for DCP Chair. The ballot is going to have to
>>>> be rerun. I don't think psychology is the answer and am not putting
>>>> all my eggs in the BPS basket. There are however loads of good people
>>>> many of whom you know and have influenced who can help move things on.
>>>>
>>>> I think you got out too early and should think about rejoining!
>>>>
>>>> Richard Pemberton
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 3/19/12, CRAIG NEWNES<[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>> Richard, I have no idea how you know what the "vast majority" of
>>>>> psychologists want but I do know that the DCP tried to question
>> editorial
>>>>> independence of Forum when I published my own critique of their
>>>>> non-existent
>>>>> stance on ECT in ECT the DCP and ME. That was 20 years ago - if they
>>>>> couldn't speak out then when the evidence was overwhelmingly against
>>>>> electrocuting people, why should they now? You have an interesting
>>>>> faith
>>>>> in
>>>>> the BPS which I don't share. I think we would have to ask - if it's
>> taken
>>>>> 50
>>>>> years for the BPS to make a cautious critique of the harm that so
>>>>> called
>>>>> services do, why should we expect the organization to speak out about
>>>>> contemporary concerns like the promulgation of computer based CBT,
>>>>> logically
>>>>> impossible links between cognition and neurology and the rest?
>>>>> Craig
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>> From: richard pemberton<[log in to unmask]>
>>>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>>>> Sent: Monday, 19 March 2012, 17:42
>>>>> Subject: Re: [COMMUNITYPSYCHUK] the corruption of medicine
>>>>>
>>>>> Craig
>>>>>
>>>>> I am out of the NHS and am not looking for salvation. Thats best left
>>>>> to the religious amongst us. I am looking for some serious political
>>>>> alliances of liked minded people to break down the conspiracy of
>>>>> silence about some or all of this. It will of course take years.
>>>>> Healys book is significant because it also pulls in physical health
>>>>> and the extent to which physical health guidelines and nice
>>>>> recommendations have also been cooked. I don't believe in depression
>>>>> and abhor ECT. The BPS has also recently spoken out questioning the
>>>>> use of ECT. I don't think that ever happened in your day. The BPS
>>>>> supported the recent attack on DSM5. This also wouldn't have happened
>>>>> five years ago. It got copy all round the world.
>>>>> Once applied psychologists become aware of how dire the evidence base
>>>>> for psychotropic drugs are and how they are implicated in the greatly
>>>>> reduced life expectancy of many people they won't be rushing for the
>>>>> prescription pad!
>>>>> The question is why did your work and others not impact more on
>>>>> practice and public consciousness. The drug companies are all rowing
>>>>> back from mental health research. The survivor/peer movement is
>>>>> maturing and gathering strength. I think with some serious planning
>>>>> and use of the media a tipping point could well be in sight. I am not
>>>>> naive. The tobacco companies faught tooth and nail to carry on killing
>>>>> people and we should expect something similar but the evidence is
>>>>> starting to be heard?
>>>>> There are loads of good psychologists critical and acritical working
>>>>> hard to provide decent and non oppressive care in what you call a pig
>>>>> sty. Just insulting them/dissing them by suggesting that they are just
>>>>> there for the money is really unhelpful and counterproductive? A few
>>>>> are but the vast majority are not.
>>>>>
>>>>> Richard Pemberton
>>>>>
>>>>> On 3/19/12, CRAIG NEWNES<[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>>> Richard, I am not dissing Healy - his two volume biog The
>>>>>> Psychopharmacologists is brilliant. But claiming that
>>>>>> anti-depressants
>>>>>> are
>>>>>> harmful while recommending ECT for a non-entity called "depression"
>>>>>> doesn't
>>>>>> seem that radical to me. I don't read Forum but if Tony wants to look
>>>>>> back
>>>>>> about five years he'll find an article by Guy Holmes and myself
>> reporting
>>>>>> on
>>>>>> some Prescribing Rights seminars we held for qualified Clin Psychs.
>>>>>> The
>>>>>> majority wanted to be able to prescribe and 5 said, matter of factly,
>> it
>>>>>> was
>>>>>> to "get drug co freebies." You can't build a palace from a pig-sty -
>> just
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> nicer place for pigs to live in. I am well aware of many psychs who
>> have
>>>>>> found theselves in a position where their salaries pay the rent but
>>>>>> disagree
>>>>>> with what they or their colleagues are asked to do. Understandably
>>>>>> they
>>>>>> try
>>>>>> to "change" the system from within, not unlike the Psychotherapy
>> Section
>>>>>> me
>>>>>> electing me their Chair to follow David Smail as a token radical. I
>>>>>> was
>>>>>> saved
>>>>>> by a car accident - let's hope your salvation is less troublesome.
>>>>>> C
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>>> From: richard pemberton<[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, 19 March 2012, 15:27
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [COMMUNITYPSYCHUK] the corruption of medicine
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Craig
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I was well aware of that and he is overly defensive about medicines
>> role
>>>>>> but
>>>>>> his book is really really important and backs up a lot of what you
>>>>>> have
>>>>>> been
>>>>>> saying for years but it is coming from a respected professor in a
>> serious
>>>>>> medical school who has been part of the drug trial industry. I think
>> the
>>>>>> tide is turning and this scandal is starting to break out into the
>>>>>> limelight. I have managed to get Whitaker doing the public lecture at
>> the
>>>>>> Division of Clinical Psychology Conference in Oxford in December and
>>>>>> he
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> staying on for the symposium on medication and psychosis.He will also
>> be
>>>>>> doing a more survivor orientated event in Sussex. If you still have
>>>>>> access
>>>>>> to Forum you may have seen Wainwrights Ethics column on all this and
>> its
>>>>>> implications for the practice of psychologists who are sitting in
>> mulidis
>>>>>> teams and are hence party to the drugging of people with very
>>>>>> expensive
>>>>>> ineffective and dangerous drugs. The science and the data according
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> Healy
>>>>>> has all
>>>>>> been systematically cooked.
>>>>>> Your post is like Davids about Seligman. Its another dissing of
>>>>>> people
>>>>>> because they are doing things that add to the problem or whose value
>> base
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> problematic/different. They both however have within their work
>>>>>> contributions that point to the sorts of solutions that I thought
>>>>>> critical
>>>>>> psychologists are all about. Having probably the worlds best known
>>>>>> psychologist saying we have screwed up in our obsession with
>>>>>> psychopathology
>>>>>> is remarkably helpful in my book. I could discount it because he
>>>>>> became
>>>>>> famous by doing horrible things to dogs or because his relationship
>> with
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> American military or because there is a statue of Winston Churchill
>>>>>> on
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> Penn State Campus but he is opening an important door. He clearly
>> doesn't
>>>>>> know how to go through it though.
>>>>>> No wonder critical psychology/community psychology has sadly had
>>>>>> little
>>>>>> influence in the UK?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is
>>>>>> good
>>>>>>
>> http://my.psychologytoday.com/blog/dsm5-in-distress/201203/am-i-dangerous-ma
>> n
>>>>>> Hope you are well
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Richard Pemberton
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 2:52 PM, CRAIG NEWNES
>>>>>> <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> David Healy is currently promoting ECT
>>>>>>> C
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From: richard pemberton<[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, 18 March 2012, 12:21
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [COMMUNITYPSYCHUK] the corruption of medicine
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://davidhealy.org/we-need-to-talk-about-doctors he can be found
>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>> twitter
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Pharmageddon is a very good and disturbing book. His twitter address
>>>>>>> is @DavidHealey
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Richard
>>>>>>>
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