This blog and new book might be of interest - "The Faith of the Faithless -
Political Theology"
http://www.politicaltheology.com/blog/?p=1646
On 3/22/12 2:07 AM, "Daniel Lewis" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> On 21 March 2012 16:12, Pitch <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> In addition, I pretty much agree with Ben's comments--
>> Marxian materialist outlooks (and, in my own limited
>> experience, group dynamics) go against the grain of
>> Paganism in its spiritual and paranormal dimensions.
>> I know of some folks whose Marxist outlooks took them
>> away from and out of Paganism.
>
> The Political Compass ( http://www.politicalcompass.org/ ) is a great
> source of political information from around the world, whether it is
> left, right, up, down or centre. I find it very useful.
>
> I find that many Marxist groups edge toward the Stalin type of
> Communism, and are therefore quite authoritarian, and therefore, as
> has been mentioned, also quite materialist (although no doubt there
> are exceptions). If we look at the more Trotskyist and Anarchic groups
> within the Marxist domain we tend to find people that are not
> materialist, often quite spiritual or at least very "eco". I can
> imagine that many Marxist Pagans do have a Trotsky or Anarchy stance,
> but if they move to the Stalin type then it might bring them out of
> Paganism.
>
> When we talk about "Far Right" groups, we're usually talking about
> Fascists - which are actually, usually, at the top of the Political
> Compass, and bizarrely in the centre. They are very nationalist (hence
> the racism), very authoritarian, but they also quite like state-funded
> things, and will often promote co-operative business.
>
> I can quite easily imagine that some Pagan groups/people are "Far
> Right" politically, if they start to become authoritarian and
> nationalist - and then there are theories such as the Aryan thought,
> which made its way into Esoteric (Pagan & Christian) thought in
> Germany from Indian-Theosophy, which wouldn't help.
>
> My personal line of inquiry into Synarchy is still rather puzzling -
> How can Papus, Victor Hugo et al really be "rightwards-leaning", when
> a lot of what they did seem to be "leftwards-leaning"? Even Saint-Yves
> seems more likely to have been on the side of liberalism than
> conservativism.
>
> Cheers for the debate everyone.
>
> Daniel
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