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Re: Synarchy--Occulture Played A Part In Forming The EU?

From:

Amy Hale <[log in to unmask]>

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Society for The Academic Study of Magic <[log in to unmask]>

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Tue, 20 Mar 2012 16:40:36 -0700

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Hi all,

The way I tend to look at it is that the acceptance of certain
frameworks can influence your political stance and your chosen form of
occult/Pagan practice.  Certainly from the Right (and there are
various flavors of Right and Left, as noted here), there have been a
number of occult responses.  We have the Legitimist monarchist project
seen in Mathers’ and for a time Crowley, the right wing
ethnonationalism of Yeats, which was quite compatible with what is
emerging as the New Right, which is now finding resonances with
Pagans, Heathens and some fringe Thelemites.

Pieces like the one in New Dawn, in my view, tend to suggest a rather
conscious conspiratorial view which I don’t think is entirely
accurate.  I think that people and ideas converge in a way that may
have an ideological consistency, and I may buy that here, but I am not
convinced of their argument, mostly because of the way in which it has
been presented to me.  I think we can see the idea of a European Union
(of one sort or another) being perfectly consistent with a wide
variety of both political and occult perspectives.

As an aside, New Dawn itself is a somewhat odd publication and should
be carefully considered as a source of any sort of information.  They
most certainly have links with the New Right, as evidenced not only by
their content but by the fact that one of the blurbs of praise on
their homepage comes from Russian fascist Alexander Dugin.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aleksandr_Dugin

Best,
Amy


On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 1:27 PM, Magliocco, Sabina
<[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
>
>
> Check out Amy Hale’s article on John Michell and how his philosophy is being
> claimed by the New Right in the latest issue of The Pomegranate:
>
> http://www.equinoxpub.com/POM/article/view/11580
>
>
>
>
>
> Very instructive.  I’m finding more links between modern Paganism and the
> New Right, and not only in Europe, either.  I think sometimes people don’t
> realize the history of the ideologies they are espousing, and don’t stop to
> consider their implications… or perhaps they do, and it’s OK with them – in
> which case, it’s a problem about which we need to be vigilant.
>
>
>
> Best,
>
> Sabina
>
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>
>
>
> Sabina Magliocco, Ph.D.
>
> Professor
>
> Department of Anthropology
>
> California State University – Northridge
>
> 18111 Nordhoff St.
>
> Northridge, CA  91330-8244
>
>
>
> [log in to unmask]
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>
>
> From: Society for The Academic Study of Magic
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Pitch
> Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2012 9:10 AM
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> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [ACADEMIC-STUDY-MAGIC] Synarchy--Occulture Played A Part In
> Forming The EU?
>
>
>
> Aloha,
>
>
> First, thanks to the list members who have continued
> this thread. The comments have certainly provided me
> with what I was looking for--some background information
> and viewpoints to think about. Particularly how we categorize
> parties, movements, and inner circles on the right-left spectrum
> and the occult-secular one.
>
> Second, what this article on right-wing occultic synarchy
> has me mulling over is just how political an occult outlook
> or agenda may be, and vice versa. Here, I find myself wondering
> how much the participation of famous occultists in a political
> movement "occultifies" a political agenda. (My major reason, I
> suppose, is that in North America right now, some Pagans
> are trying to figure out how or whether being Pagan somehow
> "paganizes" their politics. Not so much as activists, which is
> part of my own Paganish politics, as much as party members
> and/or ideologues.)
>
> What I'm tending toward is a notion that (famous) occultists
> participating in a political movement probably does NOT--
> in the absence of very specific evidence--"occultify" that
> movement's political agenda.
>
> The article, for instance, suggests that synarchy holds an
> aristocratic hierarchical view of social arrangements that
> is occultic in character. But the occultic aspect seems to me
> almost trivial in comparison to the hierarchical aristocratic
> element. Do you need a demon's OK to act a Prince?
>
> Musing What Are The Class Origins Of Modern Occulture, Anyhow? Rose,
>
> Pitch

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