I agree. Twitter has also been a useful place to learn about informal
events that are taking place. I think the nature of Twitter is also
encouraging sharing and collaboration and enhances events like this one.
Helen
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From: CIG E-Forum [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
Claire Sewell
Sent: 28 March 2012 15:31
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Subject: Re: [CIG-E-FORUM] anyone not on Twitter out there?
I agree with this. For someone on a reduced budget, I'm really grateful
for social media. I wouldn't be able to do about two thirds of the cpd
that I do without it. It also allows me to fit things in with my work
day (for example, I can follow this discussion and then contribute
during my breaks) which I wouldn't necessarily be able to do with
traditional training.
On 28/03/2012 15:26, Taylor, Wendy wrote:
> As training budgets have been reduced I think social media is
> particularly important for connecting people. If you are outside
> London, work in a specialist library or just starting out in
> librarianship you may not be able to make the connections to have face
> to face or email contact with other professionals. What I like about
> twitter is that on the one hand you can follow important people in the
> profession and on the other you can connect with people on a similar
level.
> Wendy
>
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> From: CIG E-Forum [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
> Nicola Osborne
> Sent: 28 March 2012 15:10
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [CIG-E-FORUM] anyone not on Twitter out there?
>
> Anne,
>
> Yes, I would absolutely agree with all of those comments. If you are
> looking to consult or engage with a community of interest or practice
> then social media is only ever part of the picture. Email is important
> and face to face is certainly still essential for some types of
> engagement.
>
> What can be quite interesting in social media spaces, and more broadly
> online, is that the louder and quieter voices are not always the same
> people - some of those who will be quite dominant in face to face
> spaces can be quiet or absent online whilst some of those who feel
> least confident about speaking up in person find they can be far more
> vocal online, particularly in social media presences where anonimity
> is an option. I think generally being able to engage in a variety of
> offline and online spaces that have been chosen to fit the
> user/audience/community needs, and doing that in a consistent way
> tends to be the best approach.
>
> - Nicola.
>
>
> On 28/03/2012 15:01, Welsh, Anne wrote:
>> Hi Nicola
>>
>> I know the studies for UK general usage of twitter. I think it's
>> important to see that where we are talking about communities of
>> practice the figures may be higher or lower, and, at the moment, we
>> simply do not know (a) how many cataloguers there are in the UK or
>> (b) how many of them use twitter professionally. However, the cozy
>> feel of twitter and of email lists can make us feel that we know what
>> "the community" thinks. I hate the term, but it's part of the echo
>> chamber
> effect.
>> It was really striking to me that when Celine noted that most people
>> who had actively commented on this forum were also active tweeters,
>> it was at that point that non-tweeters raised their voices.
>>
>> When Celine, Helen and I were writing our paper on the RDA e-forum
>> for the upcoming Journal of Library Metadata, it was noticeable that
>> the forum received more than the standard rate of community response.
>>
>> I think it's important to remain aware that there are always, in any
>> forum (real-world or virtual), more silent participants than
>> outspoken ones, otherwise we can shrink our own world.
>>
>> As someone who has given lots of presentations on how to "do" social
>> media, it always surprises people to find out that I agree with
>> Heather - it's not worth doing just for its own sake! Twitter,
>> Pinterest, Google+, facebook, are all just tools to help us achieve
>> stuff. Sometimes the offline way *is* best!
>>
>> So, I would say, only get involved with Twitter if you feel you are
>> out of the loop with something and / or if you feel the need to
>> broadcast something institutionally. Ditto for blogging, facebooking
> and linkedin.
>> The two best networked people I know in librarianship have never, to
>> my knowledge, touched a social network site - they get their news
>> direct from the many people who value them enough not to leave them
>> out of the conversation!
>>
>>
>> Anne
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 28/03/2012 14:14, "Nicola Osborne"<[log in to unmask]>
wrote:
>>
>>> A few comments to add here:
>>>
>>> Firstly Twitter lists are a really great tip, a really good way to
>>> organise and filter out the streams of tweets in sensible ways that
>>> work for you. Thanks for that Anne!
>>>
>>> Secondly in terms of representation the credible estimates on how
>>> many people in the UK use Twitter put it at about 10-12%, and you
>>> can probably assume that that is a percentage of those who use the
web.
>>> It has wide use but is very niche compared to the percentages using
>>> Facebook or accessing blogs.
>>>
>>> - Nicola.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 28/03/2012 13:32, Welsh, Anne wrote:
>>>> One thing got me into twitter: RDA - specifically the way that US
>>>> national libraries have taken the lead. I picked up so much stuff
>>>> so much earlier via twitter (even than on RDA-L) that it was
>>>> invaluable when I was writing the book and continues to be so for
teaching.
>>>>
>>>> There is a lot of recycling, that's true, but as well as following
>>>> people you can create lists, and I have a few of these it's of them
>>>> private so no-one feels excluded) that I use to filter down to
>>>> people that I feel keep me informed.
>>>>
>>>> I do see twitter as exactly the same (to me) as list servs, but I
>>>> can filter it in more ways than list servs.
>>>>
>>>> Also, like all social media, and as Celine has described, over time
>>>> personal details creep in, so twitter is also a bit like a staff
>>>> common room (to me). I've gotten to know some more colleagues which
> is great.
>>>> One thing that I do wonder though is how representative twitter is
>>>> (and listservs are) of the community as a whole: just as there are
>>>> some people who don't like the common room, there will always be
>>>> some folks who don't like twitter etc., and it's important we don't
>>>> start to see such arenas as more representative than they are.
>>>>
>>>> I also think a twitter marathon specifically sharing items
>>>> catalogued would be great. It would showcase different LMS too, and
>>>> that's something worth capturing. (In teaching the hardest thing to
>>>> find is examples of records in situ on OPACs from the time before I
>>>> was teaching, yet often these are the most useful things in showing
>>>> how users accessed materials). Perhaps we could set up an HVcats
>>>> pool on Flickr for this, Celine?
>>>>
>>>> Anne
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 28 Mar 2012, at 13:17, "Jardine,
>>>> Heather"<[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello, I'm another late arrival at the party - Heather Jardine,
>>>>> City of London Libraries. I've blogged recently on hvcats about
>>>>> our excursions into the world of blogs and videos and our (so far
>>>>> slightly tentative) engagement with social media.
>>>>>
>>>>> But I personally don't have a Twitter account. I've been tempted
>>>>> several times but held back partly because of the volume of stuff
>>>>> everyone gets stuck into (OK, so it's a river but I'm sure I'd be
>>>>> trying to empty that river with my bucket!), partly because I am
>>>>> much too prolix ever to manage to say anything in a single tweet,
>>>>> partly because I don't want to see quirky stuff when I'm not in
>>>>> the mood for it, because I don't have a smartphone and don't have
>>>>> access to Twitter at work, but mostly because I suspect (go on,
>>>>> tell me I'm wrong) that it is a relatively small community all
>>>>> recycling the same things and generating huge amounts of noise
>>>>> without too much substance (why tweet about a blog post instead of
>>>>> reading the blog in the first place?) - oh yes, and because I am a
>>>>> grumpy old person...
>>>>>
>>>>> I love blogging though...!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Heather Jardine
>>>>> Bibliographical Access Manager
>>>>> City of London Libraries
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: CIG E-Forum [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
>>>>> Lee, Deborah
>>>>> Sent: 28 March 2012 12:39
>>>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>>>> Subject: Re: [CIG-E-FORUM] anyone not on Twitter out there?
>>>>>
>>>>> I am on Twitter, but don't have time to check it nearly as much as
>>>>> I would like to. I have found Twitter a really useful way of
>>>>> finding out about events, especially events which have sold out
> very quickly (e.g.
>>>>> the London librarian teachmeet), and like others, it is has been
>>>>> invaluable for RDA updates - or at least being updated that there
>>>>> was an RDA update out! I have also found it really useful for
>>>>> garnering opinions and advice from other cataloguer on specific
>>>>> cataloguing issues, and find it more approachable than cataloguing
>>>>> mailing lists.
>>>>>
>>>>> I also worry/wonder about the professional/personal bit. For this
>>>>> purpose, I try and keep Twitter entirely professional (though
>>>>> don't mention my place of work, as it is professional-personal,
>>>>> rather than my "official" account), but have succumbed to
>>>>> following the odd orchestra or choir! I keep my facebook account
>>>>> entirely private. However as Helen said, the
>>>>> professional/personal do end up blurring as I meet Twitter
>>>>> cataloguers in real life and have music librarian "friends" on
facebook.
>>>>>
>>>>> Debbie
>>>>>
>>>>> Deborah Lee
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>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: CIG E-Forum [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
>>>>> Linda Gilbert
>>>>> Sent: 28 March 2012 12:18
>>>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>>>> Subject: Re: [CIG-E-FORUM] anyone not on Twitter out there?
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't use Twitter either, and have no idea how to. I do have a
>>>>> facebook account but only for personal use. I originally signed up
>>>>> to facebook after going to a cpd event where someone from the
>>>>> British Library recommended using fb to keep up with BL
>>>>> developments. I could never see why this was better than using
>>>>> their web pages. I feel as though I am missing something but am
>>>>> not sure what it is! I hardly have time to keep up with the media
>>>>> I do use (email and mail lists) let alone trying to work out what
>>>>> else I should be using. I do have a mobile phone, but it isn't
>>>>> smart and I hardly ever use it (much to my daughters frustration).
>>>>> I have a Linkedin account, but don't use that either.
>>>>> Like Gordon, I am currently blissfully ignorant, but probably
>>>>> won't stay that way for much longer.
>>>>>
>>>>> Linda Gilbert
>>>>> STFC
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: CIG E-Forum [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
>>>>> Sue Lambert
>>>>> Sent: 28 March 2012 11:56
>>>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>>>> Subject: Re: [CIG-E-FORUM] anyone not on Twitter out there?
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll raise my head above the parapet and say I don't use Twitter.
>>>>> I don't use Facebook. Though I do follow blogs via Google Reader.
>>>>> I don't have a mobile phone let alone a smart one!
>>>>>
>>>>> Sue
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