aha

I hadn't picked up _elder_ but that makes sense too

yes, L elidere was as far as I got

I'd have gone with the project once conceived if he was called Danger
Whelk but it is good that it made some kind of sense

The only other possibility -- AN other possibility is that it is a British
word... but it seems that so many Latin words are borrowed from or lent to
Celtic speak

Pity they didn't do books

Anyway, thank you. He elides a lot. I wouldn't trust him.

(oh no not another unreliable narrator)

L

If he had been called Danger Whelk a millennium or more ago, the
etympology would be fascinating




On Sat, February 11, 2012 18:15, cris cheek wrote:
> the elider?
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> one who elides
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> an elder
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> On Feb 11, 2012, at 11:58 AM, Lawrence Upton wrote:
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>> Hi
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>>
>>> In Canada, we have a lot of so-called book length 'documentaries,'
>>> usually based on some historical figure & what is archived about him
>>> or her. I dont know Elidius as such a figure; is he?
>>
>> No, I don't think so. There seems to have been precious little written
>> about him.
>>
>> His name became corrupted. I do not have the details and do not even
>> know if it applies to his name  as Elidius – I once came to the
>> conclusion that it means the eraser, and that quite appeals to me, out
>> of Latin
>>
>> but I am not so concerned with the process of his reputation
>> post-mortem as with what I can do with him alive in quotes; and part of
>> that is that there is no record
>>
>> Anyway, the corruption. Briefly, I seem to remember, something happens
>> when you translate a name into Latin and then back into Cornish. It
>> changes gender. I think it's an a that's added. Poles I know whose name
>>  ends -ski have wives with names ending -a.
>>
>> Something like that happens as part of translation.
>>
>>
>> And then the inability to cope with foreign names. Cornish seems to
>> have gone from Scilly / Ennor by the 16th century.
>>
>> What is thought to be Elid's oratory (and maybe Elid is nothing to do
>> with the Latin process of erasure) is now on St Helen's Isle. It appears
>> he was St Helen linguistically regendered. (The island of St Agnes is
>> actually from ek ennes, off island, in conjectural Cornish – it doesnt
>> seem to have been written down till the late 15th century.) But they do
>> like labelling everything with saint. Charles  Thomas takes pages to
>> rubbish the idea of it having anything to do with the female name.
>>
>> St Helen's island would not have been an island then.
>>
>>
>> So there isn't much. Nowadays in the summer - 6th Aug – they go over
>> and say prayers for him with him at him. I'm never there then.
>>
>> It was said by one ancient author that two early Christian heretics
>> were exiled to Ennor and this has been taken up by many if you read the
>> cottage industry of tourist guides for the gullible; so that the
>> archipelago was apparently full of exiles rather than the unverifiable
>> possibility of 2; but it gives me ideas!
>>
>> Another thing that I have used somewhere is from relatively late,
>> pardon me but I forgotten my source, 18th century? Anyway the island
>> council decided that the only thing to do with a persistent thief  was
>> to chain her to a rock which swamped at high tide... So they didn't
>> actually down her or some such nonsense. It struck me as the kind of
>> thing people do to each other
>>
>> And that's that
>>
>>
>> I have been thinking back to Nichol's martyrology. Not that there is a
>> connection. But there is in  my head. What am I doing here? That kind of
>>  connection. I was quite distressed when I heard about the martyrology
>> because I was still trying to inhabit the let's not talk about god
>> state of mind
>>
>> Heh ho
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>>
>> Thanks for the question. Another good one
>>
>>
>> Oh and there is an elidius in Wales. It seemed to me that was someone
>> else. A common name?
>>
>> I have also heard it said that some say he was a Gaul and some a Briton
>> –
>> later a dreaded Anglo
>>
>> So there must be some writing. But I don't think there's much and it's
>> not that accessible. which gives me scope
>>
>> St Elidius and the temple of doom, St Elidius meets Harry Potter, St
>> Elidius rescues Indiana Jones
>>
>>
>> L
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