Feb. 2
Dear David,
How embarrassing--for me. May I say that the article you sent us is better written than most academic articles I read.
Best wishes,
Robert
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Hi Robert;
That fellow may well have been me, although I never claimed to be able to write scholarly articles on any topic, nor do I remember boasting. I am surprised that the topic is still remembered by anyone here actually. In fact the academic articles that I do write for pay are generally for corporate clients and usually boil down to translating dull business statistics of one sort or another into a readable report for their shareholders. The boredom factor in that sort of work has led me on to more creative pursuits, but for the right price I can explain your balance sheet to your shareholders too.
I did notice a surge in the amount of essays and dissertations that were advertised on a few of the freelance sites around the end of last year but students don't generally have enough money to pay someone else to do a good job on their homework. I am certainly not interested.
Thanks
David Mattichak
> Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2012 08:31:45 +0000
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> Feb. 2
>
> Dear Ted,
>
> Many thanks for this reference. I don't even know who Hereward Tilton is.
>
> The papers came from where? The AAR?
>
> I am no expert, so that I may have to rely on that fellow on the list--I don't recall his name--who boasted of his skill at writing scholarly articles for pay on any topic.
>
>
> Best,
>
> Robert
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> Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 8:56 PM
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> Hey Robert,
> (or anyone else who's interested...)
> Have you seen Hereward Tilton's recent talk (video and pdf available)
> which criticizes Hanegraaff's critique of "religionist" approaches to esotericism?
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JW5XRqBvka4
> http://phoenixrising.org.gr/wp-content/upload/PRA%20session%20programme.pdf
> http://phoenixrising.org.gr/en/events/past-events/3711-2/#.Tymmx4Hnnt9
> I'm not sure if he's got an adequate reply, and I'd be interested to hear what
> you think about the rest of the papers from the session. I'm beginning to
> despair of all this theory of esotericism confusion.
>
> On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 9:01 AM, Segal, Professor Robert A. <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
> Feb. 1
>
> Dear Sam,
>
> Thanks for your comment. I'd not realized that the New Age movement even considers itself instititutionalized since the most common distinction drawn with traditional religion--or even, as is put, with religion per se--is the absence of institutiionalization, which I find unrealistic.
>
> Certainly institututions can be rigid and dogmatic. I was merely saying that, whether good or bad, institutionalization is necessary for a movement of any kind to survive.
>
> Weber introduces the notion of the institutionalization of charisma--an attempt to keep the religion going while preserving the original character of it.
>
>
> Best,
>
> Robert
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> > You raise excellent points, but can I suggest that New Age culture was
> > institutionalized a long time ago
>
>
> While I'm certainly not going to diss institutions, as a founding member of
> a small church, the vitality of a religion (or any other social structure)
> comes from the movement surrounding the institutions. When a back and forth
> exchange happens on the popular culture level between the various
> institutions and the movement surrounding and sustaining them, both are
> healthy, when one or the other comes to be too dominant, both falter. Those
> involved in institutions tend to believe they own the religion or the
> movement, while those principally involved in the amorphous movement don't
> see the value of social capital imbedded in long-last impersonal structures,
> policies and procedures.
>
> Best,
>
> Sam Wagar
>
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