Dear Peter,
That's part of the 'learned behaviour' I was referring to below!
When I was living in a house with lead pipes in the 21st century,
I was told off for running the water before drinking it as "it's
wasteful" according to my housemates, who like me had been raised in
plastic-piped houses from the 1970s onwards. The difference was that
my grandparents had a house with lead pipes so I'd been taught how to
drink from them since I was small.
It's interesting how quickly 'learned behaviour' is lost.
Heather
Quoting Peter Hutchison <[log in to unmask]>:
> Here is my pennorth for what it is worth.
> My family lived in a house with lead pipes. The first job in the
> morning was to run the kitchen tap for some minutes "to clear the
> stale water out of the pipes". Soft water from Elan Valley. I
> believe the mains were iron
> I still have a 60' lead service pipe. The first thing that happens
> in the morning is the toilet is flushed, so the water lurking in the
> lead pipe overnight ends up in the cistern which is close to the
> mains inlet. We used to have hard water from Parkmill which could
> have coated the service pipe. We now have soft water from Felindre.
> The mains are iron and asbestos cement.
> I have no signs of any ill health that is likely to have been caused
> by lead and I am over 80. I do drink quite a lot of milk.
> Peter Hutchison.
>
> -----Original Message----- From: HJ HOPKINS
> Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 6:09 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Lead Poisioning
>
> Dear Trevor,
>
> An interesting question and one I've explored in my thesis and
> beyond. Lead is dissolvable to an extent, which can cause problems.
>
> What are your housepipes made of and where does the water come
> from? Are you in a hard or soft water area? What exactly are you doing
> in the garden?
>
> There are a few 'learned behaviours' that warded off poisoning
> when using lead, but these were mostly lost during the 20th century.
>
> I'd be interested to hear the outcomes in your investigation,
>
> Heather
>
>
> Quoting Trevor <[log in to unmask]>:
>
>> Dear List,
>>
>> Rather an odd one this which I direct to the scientific community
>> working with metals.
>>
>> My wife and myself live in property dating from the early 17th
>> century and which was adjacent to a lead smelting site which has
>> been dated to the 16th/17th century. The garden of our property
>> contains relatively large quantities of lead slag from this period
>> down to a depth of 2m. This was discovered during archaeological
>> excavation.
>>
>> We have been subjected to periodic illness which doctors have been
>> unable to diagnose. We have looked at many possible causes -
>> installing carbon dioxide detectors which have not responded to its
>> presence, to the installation of a water purifying system to
>> prevent any possible sources of infection from water sources.
>>
>> We are now looking at poisoning as a possible diagnosis and note
>> that the symptoms for lead poisoning are exactly what we appear to
>> be suffering.
>>
>> There are several questions which come to mind. Radon can cause ill
>> health through the decay of granites beneath a property. In the
>> same manner, can lead slogs decay to create toxicity within a
>> property, or the garden of the property.
>>
>> Any insights into this issue would be very gratefully received.
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>> Trevor & Patty Drunkenly
>
>
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