Feb. 3
Dear David,
A true academic you are: turning an article into a book. This precedent goes back to Muhammed and to Moses.
Best,
Robert
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Hi Robert;
Don't let it worry you mate- I haven't. In fact I had a laugh that you all remembered the thread here.
Thanks for the compliment. I really did wish that I could have had more space in the magazine so that I could have explored a couple of different angles. Perhaps I should write a book about it.
David
> Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2012 12:48:11 +0000
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> Subject: Re: [ACADEMIC-STUDY-MAGIC] Thanks to everyone from the list who helped
> To: [log in to unmask]
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> Feb. 2
>
> Dear David,
>
> How embarrassing--for me. May I say that the article you sent us is better written than most academic articles I read.
>
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Robert
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> Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 11:47 AM
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> Hi Robert;
>
> That fellow may well have been me, although I never claimed to be able to write scholarly articles on any topic, nor do I remember boasting. I am surprised that the topic is still remembered by anyone here actually. In fact the academic articles that I do write for pay are generally for corporate clients and usually boil down to translating dull business statistics of one sort or another into a readable report for their shareholders. The boredom factor in that sort of work has led me on to more creative pursuits, but for the right price I can explain your balance sheet to your shareholders too.
>
> I did notice a surge in the amount of essays and dissertations that were advertised on a few of the freelance sites around the end of last year but students don't generally have enough money to pay someone else to do a good job on their homework. I am certainly not interested.
>
> Thanks
>
> David Mattichak
>
> > Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2012 08:31:45 +0000
> > From: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: [ACADEMIC-STUDY-MAGIC] Thanks to everyone from the list who helped
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> >
> > Feb. 2
> >
> > Dear Ted,
> >
> > Many thanks for this reference. I don't even know who Hereward Tilton is.
> >
> > The papers came from where? The AAR?
> >
> > I am no expert, so that I may have to rely on that fellow on the list--I don't recall his name--who boasted of his skill at writing scholarly articles for pay on any topic.
> >
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Robert
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> > From: Society for The Academic Study of Magic [[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Ted Hand [[log in to unmask]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 8:56 PM
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: [ACADEMIC-STUDY-MAGIC] Thanks to everyone from the list who helped
> >
> > Hey Robert,
> > (or anyone else who's interested...)
> > Have you seen Hereward Tilton's recent talk (video and pdf available)
> > which criticizes Hanegraaff's critique of "religionist" approaches to esotericism?
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JW5XRqBvka4
> > http://phoenixrising.org.gr/wp-content/upload/PRA%20session%20programme.pdf
> > http://phoenixrising.org.gr/en/events/past-events/3711-2/#.Tymmx4Hnnt9
> > I'm not sure if he's got an adequate reply, and I'd be interested to hear what
> > you think about the rest of the papers from the session. I'm beginning to
> > despair of all this theory of esotericism confusion.
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 9:01 AM, Segal, Professor Robert A. <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
> > Feb. 1
> >
> > Dear Sam,
> >
> > Thanks for your comment. I'd not realized that the New Age movement even considers itself instititutionalized since the most common distinction drawn with traditional religion--or even, as is put, with religion per se--is the absence of institutiionalization, which I find unrealistic.
> >
> > Certainly institututions can be rigid and dogmatic. I was merely saying that, whether good or bad, institutionalization is necessary for a movement of any kind to survive.
> >
> > Weber introduces the notion of the institutionalization of charisma--an attempt to keep the religion going while preserving the original character of it.
> >
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Robert
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> > From: Society for The Academic Study of Magic [[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>] On Behalf Of Samuel Wagar [[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>]
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 4:58 PM
> > To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: Re: [ACADEMIC-STUDY-MAGIC] Thanks to everyone from the list who helped
> >
> > > You raise excellent points, but can I suggest that New Age culture was
> > > institutionalized a long time ago
> >
> >
> > While I'm certainly not going to diss institutions, as a founding member of
> > a small church, the vitality of a religion (or any other social structure)
> > comes from the movement surrounding the institutions. When a back and forth
> > exchange happens on the popular culture level between the various
> > institutions and the movement surrounding and sustaining them, both are
> > healthy, when one or the other comes to be too dominant, both falter. Those
> > involved in institutions tend to believe they own the religion or the
> > movement, while those principally involved in the amorphous movement don't
> > see the value of social capital imbedded in long-last impersonal structures,
> > policies and procedures.
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Sam Wagar
> >
> >
> > The University of Aberdeen is a charity registered in Scotland, No SC013683.
> >
> >
> >
> > The University of Aberdeen is a charity registered in Scotland, No SC013683.
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>
> The University of Aberdeen is a charity registered in Scotland, No SC013683.
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