well, you want an arse with a ring, Small Pat
Off to talk about sonic art in a pub now
Oh joy
Eeyore
On Sat, January 7, 2012 10:29, Patrick McManus wrote:
> I am so old big L that I think that I am out of copyright
> But how about 'Raynes Park Rat's Arse'? has a ring about it :-)
> P rat arsed
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Poetryetc: poetry and poetics [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
> Behalf Of Lawrence Upton
> Sent: 07 January 2012 10:16
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Periglis
>
>
> It's quite a long-standing concept, Patrick
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> I think it's out of copyright
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> L
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> On Fri, January 6, 2012 16:08, Patrick McManus wrote:
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>> 'Rats Arse' what a wonderful title for a poetry book! is it copyright?
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Poetryetc: poetry and poetics [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>> On Behalf Of Lawrence Upton
>> Sent: 06 January 2012 14:09
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: Periglis
>>
>>
>>
>> local artists?
>>
>> like sand on the shore
>>
>> some of them are technically rather fine; and I used to go and visit one
>> on another island in particular who had a sort of open house for a few
>> hours a day when you could go and talk to him and he'd pretend to listen
>>
>>
>> room full of reasonably priced tourist bait and one bin of what really
>> interested him -- small details of rocks, odd shadows... photos and
>> prints and paintings -- but they didnt sell much
>>
>> many technically proficient, but... Goes back to something Hockney said
>> the other day, which I have *some empathy with -- the need for tech
>> ability and for that element he called _poetry_
>>
>> i expect he wouldnt tolerate what i would; i am quite interested in the
>> products of incompetence; but he's on to something
>>
>> i used to say (without realising i *always said it) _what he/she does is
>> really rather well done; I just don't know why anyone would want to do
>> it_
>>
>> i stopped after someone said _i thought you'd say that; you always say
>> that; I don't find it funny any more: why don't you just say you think
>> it's well made rubbish_ & she was right, I suppose... now i just shove
>> apples in my cheeks and grin like that guy in Catch 22
>>
>> *
>>
>>
>>
>> someone on the islands i regard as a friend was nonplussed by my
>> snapshots book -- there's one about a diy weather vane and i emphasised
>> that one to him because it's really there, on the periglis shore
>> actually so you can see what i say i am describing - the poem's a
>> straightforward thing about it and its shadows and its inversions (maybe
>> _normal_ people don't read things backwards) -- seeing NES
>> (Greek tourist slang for ersatz
>> coffee) and SEN (as in blood). I was pleased with it in a downbeat sort
>> of way, and the whole book was aimed at gig audiences who don't see
>> themselves as followers of the avantgarde -- I used to get quite a few
>> of those... but my friend, who is informed and intelligent, declared the
>> book too intellectual for him
>>
>> it's depressing... my poem was about as intellectual as a rat's arse
>>
>> i have done the occasional peculiar postcard
>>
>> b-c me an address and I might send you one
>>
>> *
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>>
>> micturating
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>> L
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>> On Fri, January 6, 2012 13:40, Patrick McManus wrote:
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>>> now, who shal i send THIS to? Those shals on the seashore??
>>>
>>>
>>> How about a series of postcards with your paintings on one side and
>>> porth poems on the other-or half and half -very yummy for the tourist
>>> trade (the upmarket bit!)- from local poet and artist etc don't bother
>>> with those poetry antpamphlets scene no money there!L Upton Cheers
>>> Patrick micturing wildly What about the Porth in the
>>> three musketeers!!(this is one of my very rare lit refs!) Are there
>>> porths in Portugal??
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Poetryetc: poetry and poetics [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>>> On Behalf Of Lawrence Upton
>>> Sent: 06 January 2012 12:39
>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>> Subject: Re: Periglis
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Patrick
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> L Powerful thanks seems deporthed??? I like the micture of massive
>>>> and tiny Sometimes we get three porths now it has flown with the
>>>> small thrush
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Once, I believe, I presented three porths, looking down the length of
>>> a bar dividing perconger and the cove (which must once have been
>>> called _porth_ before english prevailed. It was difficult to avoid and
>>> I lapsed -- at your prompt I did take another route; for which I
>>> thank you
>>>
>>> This, Perconger, is a very stony porth, swamped land, swamped over
>>> recent centuries -- that was undoubtedly in my mind, I refer to it in
>>> another verse -- and the tide goes out quite far. The difference
>>> between high and low is spectacular though you have to live there a
>>> day or 2 to get it
>>>
>>> _micture_ is what you get at the outflow of a communal urinal, surely
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> i feel i have something right with your reference to _big and tiny_.
>>> That is there, in what the poemeye is looking at. No alps etc, you
>>> have to search for physical sublimes though the sea can be alarming if
>>> you think on it. It's the smallness and lowness of it all out in all
>>> that ocean, brevity of life among the aeons - the venerable bede
>>> running in at one door and out the other before we've had a chance to
>>> offer him a cup of tea [an allusion that will be quite silly if you
>>> don't know the ref... sorry... bede, i think it was he, likened a
>>> human life to a bird flying in and through and out of a room -- whoosh
>>> -- done
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> i felt that this morning when i got out of bed
>>>
>>> i'll shut up now
>>>
>>> now, who shal i send THIS to?
>>>
>>> L
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Poetryetc: poetry and poetics
>>>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Lawrence Upton
>>>> Sent: 06 January 2012 12:11
>>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>>> Subject: Periglis
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Low tide. The sea has finished with this lot:
>>>> a stone gathering greater than the last judgment, every stone naked
>>>> of earth covering, visible; ocean shallowed of all tide power.
>>>>
>>>> This can be ignored. It is not the end of anything, only the dead
>>>> interval between quick and quicker events, big waves and plenty to
>>>> take our minds off a while.
>>>>
>>>> Nevertheless, it's here in this morning.
>>>> A herring gull gasps in lieu of a song and seems to shout "horror"
>>>> over the fields.
>>>>
>>>> Meanwhile, on a bough, a small thrush composes, choosing from
>>>> repertoires of known phrases, never quite repeating, not quite
>>>> repeating
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> [_Periglis_ from _Porth Eglos_ or _Landing Place at the Church_, -
>>>> _Porth_ has been taken as a synonym for _cove_ ]
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>> -----
>>>> UNFRAMED GRAPHICS by Lawrence Upton
>>>> 42 pages; A5 paperback; colour cover Writers Forum 978 1 84254 277 4
>>>> wfuk.org.uk/blog ----
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>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----
>>> UNFRAMED GRAPHICS by Lawrence Upton
>>> 42 pages; A5 paperback; colour cover
>>> Writers Forum 978 1 84254 277 4
>>> wfuk.org.uk/blog ----
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>> UNFRAMED GRAPHICS by Lawrence Upton
>> 42 pages; A5 paperback; colour cover
>> Writers Forum 978 1 84254 277 4
>> wfuk.org.uk/blog ----
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> UNFRAMED GRAPHICS by Lawrence Upton
> 42 pages; A5 paperback; colour cover
> Writers Forum 978 1 84254 277 4
> wfuk.org.uk/blog ----
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UNFRAMED GRAPHICS by Lawrence Upton
42 pages; A5 paperback; colour cover
Writers Forum 978 1 84254 277 4
wfuk.org.uk/blog
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