This just in from ICO...
http://bit.ly/uEdMGA
"we should try harder"
:-)
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*Mike Ellis *
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...and I wrote a book - all about digital heritage strategy:
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On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 3:21 PM, Thomas Goskar <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> As Mike mentioned, analysing log files wasn't exactly the most
> friendly or accurate process, and I don't want those days ever again.
> If we are to follow government example, rather than the letter of the
> law, then I point you at lines 772-782 of the HTML source code for
> http://www.number10.gov.uk/
> I also note with interest that Google are advertising on London buses
> and the Tube to explain what cookies are, which is a little odd if
> their use is curtailed by a law which is shortly to be enforced.
>
> I do hope that this mess can be sorted out, but until No. 10's website
> removes their Google Analytics tracking code, I'm keeping mine too.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Tom
>
> Web Manager
> Wessex Archaeology
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 3:13 PM, Mike Ellis <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > The enormous irony AFAIC is the enormous mismatch between the vast
> quantity of TOTALLY personal information being thrown at Facebook with the
> aggregate non-personal information currently being stored by tools like
> Google Analytics…but annnyway...
> >
> >
> > _____________________________
> >
> >
> > Mike Ellis
> >
> > We do nice web stuff: http://thirty8.co.uk (http://thirty8.co.uk/)
> >
> > ** I've written a book: http://heritageweb.co.uk (
> http://heritageweb.co.uk/) **
> >
> >
> > On Tuesday, 13 December 2011 at 15:08, Tony Crockford wrote:
> >
> >> On Tue Dec 13 2011 14:46:59 Mike Ellis wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Nonetheless, I'd welcome some kind of unified response. Log files
> nearly killed me once :-)
> >>
> >> I notice that the latest version of Firefox now has an option to "tell
> websites I don't want to be tracked"
> >>
> >> I'm hoping that the law will ultimately accept the users browser
> settings to indicate they accept, or do not accept *tracking cookies* which
> is the point of the directive.
> >>
> >> The fact that they somehow managed to write guidelines to include *all*
> cookies is all part of the problem with law.
> >>
> >> The current reaction is an indicator of all that's wrong with law
> making. The law abiding are bending over backwards to try and comply with
> something so fuzzy it's almost surreal, whereas those that the law was
> designed to thwart are looking for ways to track users *without* cookies.
> >>
> >> E.g. We can't browse from the same IP address for long without leaving
> fingerprints, and anyone that uses the same IP and the same browser on the
> same operating system will be leaving muddy footprints all over the place.
> >>
> >> Pattern recognition on popular sites will allow targeted advertising
> based on that footprint alone - no need for cookies, and the law is too
> late.
> >>
> >> My view is that a statement about cookies in use is a good starting
> point, having a pop up on every page to bar the user until they accept
> cookies is a nightmare - and it needs to be every page if that's how we're
> interpreting the law as nobody arrives on your home page and knocks
> politely any more.
> >>
> >> Unworkable and pointless is my humble opinion of The revised Privacy
> and Electronic Communications regulations, sadly I see the usual crop of
> money making schemes appearing.
> >>
> >> Nice summary of the shambles here:
> >>
> http://www.guardian.co.uk/law/butterworth-and-bowcott-on-law/2011/may/27/cookie-law-shambles-web-browsers
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