Patrick

You are doing more and more enjoyably linguistically innovative things
apparently effortlessly

>Hey I like that what I always said

and, even more,

>enjoyed thanks might nick Layout

good stuff

> 'Lawrence Upton is remarkable'

is editorial -- I was, as so often recently, rushing. There had been what
the admin onanists call a break down in communications, though by genuine
mischance; and, when Marc, the editor, and I finally resumed our ongoing
intermittent dialogue, he was on the point of publishing; so I had to say
yes or no there and then. I sent a rather cv style of bio; the same crap
that Andrew politely accepted. It's not too bad, I suppose, does its job;
but it is rather self-important and boring. I had learned, I thought; and
then did it again. I may or may not have said _or you can say Lawrence
Upton likes Bagpuss_

I tend to

Marc decided to write his own and copied or cut from elsewhere

*

You may of course nick the layout idea. I don't think it can be
copyrighted anyway; but it's courteous that you ask. Of course.

I guess you can treble it. Centre the text. May be less easy to follow
with three, if you are thinking of three voices

I have used this layout before; but my current use is after years of
trying different layouts for such writing, different durations, different
mechanisms and structures

I have been doing stuff in this area since the early 80s; and I all but
wrote it all off as a failed experiment (good in parts) last January (I
was sitting in a pub in Penzance with several sound sources blaring out
simultaneously in a farewell world mood... for what that's worth) It
depressed me; but that's the way  I felt it was. I typed it up, the write
off, and sent it to Tina Bass who agreed with what I had said. And then it
was published.

Tina has been my main second voice in perfrmance since 2008. I have tried
to use many others over the years; but ego has got in the way -- in my
opinion -- and I have been faced with each voice reading it as they would
if they had written it as their line

It’s odd because the last thing I want is to write a script to be acted;
but maybe it requires actorly skills (don’t do as I do, do as I say t
anyone who experiences my actorly skills)

Tina is very good in this regard. She wants to do it as I would like and
takes seriously advice to do what she thinks is best; she doesn’t suppress
herself; she doesn’t impose

i.e. It ain’t enough to have a (perhaps surface) avoidance of the lyric
voice and then have someone behave vocally and dramatically as if what
you’re uttering *is lyric poetry

I’ll stop. I’m saying too much. My answer was _yes_ and the rest of it is
me musing on my practice… I’ll send it all and risk your responses because
it might be useful if only to me

L

On Sat, November 12, 2011 11:28, Patrick McManus wrote:
> 'Lawrence Upton is remarkable'
>
>
> Hey I like that what I always said -enjoyed thanks might nick Layout
> idea!!! Does it come in trebles? (may I?)
>
>
>
> What?                                                         What?
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Poetryetc: poetry and poetics [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
> Behalf Of Lawrence Upton
> Sent: 11 November 2011 16:34
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Memory Fictions
>
>
> I have some poems at
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> sugarmule.com/39Upton-l.htm
>
> These are from an ongoing set of two voicers called Memory Fictions which
>  I am experimenting with as writing, and then in performance with Tina
> Bass
> -- at the wf workshop
>
>
> I can say more or I can shut the hell up
>
>
> I shall shut up
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>
> Enjoy -- but try to be transitive about it
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>
>
> L
>
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> UNFRAMED GRAPHICS by Lawrence Upton
> 42 pages; A5 paperback; colour cover
> Writers Forum 978 1 84254 277 4
> wfuk.org.uk/blog ----
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UNFRAMED GRAPHICS by Lawrence Upton
42 pages; A5 paperback; colour cover
Writers Forum 978 1 84254 277 4
wfuk.org.uk/blog
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