Never make assumptions about other people without checking them out.
Many of us on this list may be in a more fortunate position than you
because we get paid, but many of us are also disabled and experience
various types of discrimination, including in our work, as a result.
No-one here to my knowledge has called you or considers you
lumpenproletariat. If you want advice or support to stop being dumped
then ask for it. Someone may have practical suggestions. You can speak
for yourself for do not tell other people not to speak for themseves or
make assumptions about the perspective they are speaking from.
Marion
Larry Arnold wrote:
> But it is all thery to you but to me, who am at the point of begging even
> to continue my research with no funding and as a disabled person vilified in
> the press and about to have my benefits cut, it is no intellectual game, I
> am at the bottom of the heap and if I am dumped who cares. I am not
> privileged enough in the economy generally to be an owner of the means of
> intellectual production, or for that matter to be able to take a refined
> intellectual stance. I will exist so far as I can exist beyond that simply
> as fodder, a lumpenproletariat in the research hierarchy, the convenient
> poor and dispossessed for whom research into is no better than the gaze of
> those who objectify us in the pity and charity game, so there you go, why
> ought I not to be opposed to you. You do nothing for me with your
> sociological gaze cos you ain't here you are somewhere else.
>
> Society tells me I have no right to claim this high ground of speaking for
> myself to be contributing to that research economy other than being the
> perennial subject.
>
> Larry
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Marion Hersh [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>> Sent: 21 November 2011 01:22
>> To: Larry Arnold; [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: RE: Celebrating resilience project
>>
>>
>> Dear All,
>> There are a lot of issues round power. as well as issues round payment.
>>
> With regards to
>
>> payment there is not just the issue of whether, but how much. Some of the
>>
> concerns
>
>> about payment are paternalistic e.g. that people will get involved with
>>
> risky research
>
>> because of the money. If research is that risky, it should not be taking
>>
> place anyway.
>
>> There are generally power differences between researchers and participants
>>
> - the fact of
>
>> being researchers and asking the questions tend to give them more power.
>>
> This is
>
>> reduced to some extent in more participative approaches to research, but
>>
> not totally. Is
>
>> there any evidence that participants are more likely to bias their
>>
> responses to what they
>
>> think the researcher wants because they are paid? Otherwise, this
>>
> assumption seems
>
>> patronising. In general in would seem good practice to pay participants,
>>
> though the
>
>> available funding or lack of funding may put limitations or prevent this.
>>
>> Relevant power issues (and there are others) include
>> Disabled/non-disabled
>> Income and class
>> Researcher/participant
>> Gender and race
>> Education and access to resources.
>> Marion
>>
>>
>
>
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