The best gadget ever to be invented so far is the iPad. It is quite expensive but with a wireless connection, can access the internet, has iTunes and has Apps and Ebooks etc. It does not support Microsoft Office but the screen is slightly larger than on a Kindle, has e-mail access.
Regards,
Julie S. MacLure MA(Hons)MEd MBPsS
On 7 Nov 2011, at 00:00, ACADEMIC-STUDY-MAGIC automatic digest system <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
There are 11 messages totaling 1881 lines in this issue.
Topics of the day:
1. Academic ebooks (10)
2. attending the AAR? There's an app for that!
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Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2011 11:53:55 +1100
From: Caroline Tully <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Academic ebooks
Yes, apparently Orwell's 1984, I think, was one of those books which the
publishers said "Nup, you're not having it" and it subsequently disappeared
from people's Kindle reader thingummys.
~Caroline.
From: Society for The Academic Study of Magic
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Samuel Wagar
Sent: Sunday, 6 November 2011 4:35 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [ACADEMIC-STUDY-MAGIC] Academic ebooks
This brings me to the matter of archiving.
One thing that this thread has made very clear to me is that
convenience of access does not mean security and stability
of archives. Not within the electronic domain. Not in the world.
A single instance confirmed me in my suspicious of ebooks. When Amazon was
starting up its ebook system, they sold several thousand copies of a book
which they did not have copyright clearance to sell. This was pointed out to
them by the irate publisher. Overnight, the book vanished from the ebook
readers of all those that had purchased it (and their accounts were credited
with the $1.50 they had spent). It would be very easy to do the same thing
with a list of "prohibited" books.
All control over the content of your electronic book reader at all times
rests in the hands of the distributor, not yourself.
I prefer my cumbersome, difficult to move, physical library (including my
copies of several books that are no doubt on some prescribed list or
another).
In the Name of Thoth,
Sam Wagar
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Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2011 16:17:31 +1100
From: David Mattichak <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Academic ebooks
Hi all;
Amazon is the worst place to get e-books of any sort because of the deal that they have going with kindle. I am not a big fan of the kindle, I see it as a kind of toy really. The sony reader is good but limited. Smart devices are good by the PC or laptop is the best. I suppose that tablets would be good too but I haven't really looked at them much.
I am not suggesting that all books be abandoned- heaven forbid! I like books too much to want to see them disappear. I just think that anybody who writes, or reads, should look at the opportunities that e-books offer.
As far as I know, mostly from reading the US copyright white paper, is that e-books have the same copyright coverage and laws as printed books. I think that kindle don't sell you the book so much as lease you a readable version for one device. Look on Scribd.com for PDFs, you can share them easily and store them on USB keys etc.
Caroline, if you want 1984 as an e-book you can download it at: http://www.scribd.com/doc/37945648/1984-orwell
I just want to say that this has been a great thread.
DGM
Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2011 11:53:55 +1100
From: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [ACADEMIC-STUDY-MAGIC] Academic ebooks
To: [log in to unmask]
Yes, apparently Orwell’s 1984, I think, was one of those books
which the publishers said “Nup, you’re not having it” and it subsequently
disappeared from people’s Kindle reader thingummys.
~Caroline.
From: Society for The Academic Study of
Magic [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Samuel
Wagar
Sent: Sunday, 6 November 2011 4:35 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [ACADEMIC-STUDY-MAGIC] Academic ebooks
This brings me to the matter of
archiving.
One thing that this thread has made very clear to me is that
convenience of access does not mean security and stability
of archives. Not within the electronic domain. Not in the world.
A single instance confirmed me in my suspicious of ebooks. When
Amazon was starting up its ebook system, they sold several thousand copies of a
book which they did not have copyright clearance to sell. This was pointed out
to them by the irate publisher. Overnight, the book vanished from the ebook
readers of all those that had purchased it (and their accounts were credited
with the $1.50 they had spent). It would be very easy to do the same thing with
a list of "prohibited" books.
All control over the content of your electronic book reader at all
times rests in the hands of the distributor, not yourself.
I prefer my cumbersome, difficult to move, physical library
(including my copies of several books that are no doubt on some prescribed list
or another).
In the Name of Thoth,
Sam Wagar
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Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2011 11:34:21 +0100
From: Margaret Gouin <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Academic ebooks
On 6 November 2011 06:17, David Mattichak <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Hi all;
Amazon is the worst place to get e-books of any sort because of the deal
that they have going with kindle. I am not a big fan of the kindle, I see
it as a kind of toy really. The sony reader is good but limited. Smart
devices are good by the PC or laptop is the best. I suppose that tablets
would be good too but I haven't really looked at them much.
The Amazon Kindle kerfuffle is here:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/18/technology/companies/18amazon.html
Lawsuits resulted, as I understand; not only did Amazon arbitrarily delete
the books, but its action also deleted all the notes people had made on
those books. Some of those people were students and academics, and they
were upset. A note about Kindle: not only does Amazon know exactly what you
have on your device, and not only can Amazon arbitrarily alter that, it
also knows where you are. Avoid them. They aren't just toys, they're
invasive toys.
I have a Bebook One. It handles 23 formats including Microsoft .doc and
.ppt, .jpg (black and white) and music (mp3). Also .html, I can download
articles and web pages directly to the Bebook and read while travelling or
whatever. I wouldn't be without mine, but still find that for serious
studying, I need hard copy. For the best electronic reading, Dave is right,
a computer works better than any of the alternatives--an inexpensive
netbook is a lightweight and flexible reading platform. At least that's
what I've worked out for my own reading.
Pitch--google 'remove DRM from ebook' and see how many hits you get. Once
the DRM is off the file, it can be shared as widely as you wish. Of course
you would only do this to lend your books to friends...
Margaret
--
Margaret Gouin
http://independent.academia.edu/ad3b
Author, Tibetan Rituals of Death : Buddhist funerary
practices<http://www.routledge.com/books/details/9780415566360/>
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2011 10:44:59 +0000
From: Dr Dave Evans <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Academic ebooks
on the archiving side, this is something i wrote on the subject about 10
years ago, laughably overtaken by time in places, which maybe illustrates
how rapidly the subject is moving
yes re BeBook readers, i'm a convert too
Dave E
On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 10:34 AM, Margaret Gouin <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
On 6 November 2011 06:17, David Mattichak <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Hi all;
Amazon is the worst place to get e-books of any sort because of the deal
that they have going with kindle. I am not a big fan of the kindle, I see
it as a kind of toy really. The sony reader is good but limited. Smart
devices are good by the PC or laptop is the best. I suppose that tablets
would be good too but I haven't really looked at them much.
The Amazon Kindle kerfuffle is here:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/18/technology/companies/18amazon.html
Lawsuits resulted, as I understand; not only did Amazon arbitrarily delete
the books, but its action also deleted all the notes people had made on
those books. Some of those people were students and academics, and they
were upset. A note about Kindle: not only does Amazon know exactly what you
have on your device, and not only can Amazon arbitrarily alter that, it
also knows where you are. Avoid them. They aren't just toys, they're
invasive toys.
I have a Bebook One. It handles 23 formats including Microsoft .doc and
.ppt, .jpg (black and white) and music (mp3). Also .html, I can download
articles and web pages directly to the Bebook and read while travelling or
whatever. I wouldn't be without mine, but still find that for serious
studying, I need hard copy. For the best electronic reading, Dave is right,
a computer works better than any of the alternatives--an inexpensive
netbook is a lightweight and flexible reading platform. At least that's
what I've worked out for my own reading.
Pitch--google 'remove DRM from ebook' and see how many hits you get. Once
the DRM is off the file, it can be shared as widely as you wish. Of course
you would only do this to lend your books to friends...
Margaret
--
Margaret Gouin
http://independent.academia.edu/ad3b
Author, Tibetan Rituals of Death : Buddhist funerary practices<http://www.routledge.com/books/details/9780415566360/>
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2011 13:12:02 +0000
From: Justin McKeown <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Academic ebooks
Hi Dave,
I couldn't see the link to your archiving article. Could you repost it to me?
Also on the subject of digital readers my Uni just gave me an iPad, which I'm finding very useful for ebooks and student dissertations alike. Though, as someone who is very computer literate, they are something of toy. They're for people who consume rather than create Information. I think that the division between those who consume and those who produce is something that is becoming more enshrined through the constructs of recent digital technology. Something to think about.
Justin
Sent from my iPhone
On 6 Nov 2011, at 10:44, Dr Dave Evans <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
on the archiving side, this is something i wrote on the subject about 10 years ago, laughably overtaken by time in places, which maybe illustrates how rapidly the subject is moving
yes re BeBook readers, i'm a convert too
Dave E
On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 10:34 AM, Margaret Gouin <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
On 6 November 2011 06:17, David Mattichak <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Hi all;
Amazon is the worst place to get e-books of any sort because of the deal that they have going with kindle. I am not a big fan of the kindle, I see it as a kind of toy really. The sony reader is good but limited. Smart devices are good by the PC or laptop is the best. I suppose that tablets would be good too but I haven't really looked at them much.
The Amazon Kindle kerfuffle is here:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/18/technology/companies/18amazon.html
Lawsuits resulted, as I understand; not only did Amazon arbitrarily delete the books, but its action also deleted all the notes people had made on those books. Some of those people were students and academics, and they were upset. A note about Kindle: not only does Amazon know exactly what you have on your device, and not only can Amazon arbitrarily alter that, it also knows where you are. Avoid them. They aren't just toys, they're invasive toys.
I have a Bebook One. It handles 23 formats including Microsoft .doc and .ppt, .jpg (black and white) and music (mp3). Also .html, I can download articles and web pages directly to the Bebook and read while travelling or whatever. I wouldn't be without mine, but still find that for serious studying, I need hard copy. For the best electronic reading, Dave is right, a computer works better than any of the alternatives--an inexpensive netbook is a lightweight and flexible reading platform. At least that's what I've worked out for my own reading.
Pitch--google 'remove DRM from ebook' and see how many hits you get. Once the DRM is off the file, it can be shared as widely as you wish. Of course you would only do this to lend your books to friends...
Margaret
--
Margaret Gouin
http://independent.academia.edu/ad3b
Author, Tibetan Rituals of Death : Buddhist funerary practices
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2011 13:20:14 +0000
From: Dr Dave Evans <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Academic ebooks
http://www.occultebooks.com/articles/de_Electrickerydeclineofprint.htm
sorry trying to do 20 things at once!
On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 1:12 PM, Justin McKeown <[log in to unmask]>wrote:
Hi Dave,
I couldn't see the link to your archiving article. Could you repost it to
me?
Also on the subject of digital readers my Uni just gave me an iPad, which
I'm finding very useful for ebooks and student dissertations alike. Though,
as someone who is very computer literate, they are something of toy.
They're for people who consume rather than create Information. I think
that the division between those who consume and those who produce is
something that is becoming more enshrined through the constructs of recent
digital technology. Something to think about.
Justin
Sent from my iPhone
On 6 Nov 2011, at 10:44, Dr Dave Evans <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
on the archiving side, this is something i wrote on the subject about 10
years ago, laughably overtaken by time in places, which maybe illustrates
how rapidly the subject is moving
yes re BeBook readers, i'm a convert too
Dave E
On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 10:34 AM, Margaret Gouin <[log in to unmask]>wrote:
On 6 November 2011 06:17, David Mattichak <[log in to unmask]>wrote:
Hi all;
Amazon is the worst place to get e-books of any sort because of the deal
that they have going with kindle. I am not a big fan of the kindle, I see
it as a kind of toy really. The sony reader is good but limited. Smart
devices are good by the PC or laptop is the best. I suppose that tablets
would be good too but I haven't really looked at them much.
The Amazon Kindle kerfuffle is here:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/18/technology/companies/18amazon.html
Lawsuits resulted, as I understand; not only did Amazon arbitrarily
delete the books, but its action also deleted all the notes people had made
on those books. Some of those people were students and academics, and they
were upset. A note about Kindle: not only does Amazon know exactly what you
have on your device, and not only can Amazon arbitrarily alter that, it
also knows where you are. Avoid them. They aren't just toys, they're
invasive toys.
I have a Bebook One. It handles 23 formats including Microsoft .doc and
.ppt, .jpg (black and white) and music (mp3). Also .html, I can download
articles and web pages directly to the Bebook and read while travelling or
whatever. I wouldn't be without mine, but still find that for serious
studying, I need hard copy. For the best electronic reading, Dave is right,
a computer works better than any of the alternatives--an inexpensive
netbook is a lightweight and flexible reading platform. At least that's
what I've worked out for my own reading.
Pitch--google 'remove DRM from ebook' and see how many hits you get. Once
the DRM is off the file, it can be shared as widely as you wish. Of course
you would only do this to lend your books to friends...
Margaret
--
Margaret Gouin
http://independent.academia.edu/ad3b
Author, Tibetan Rituals of Death : Buddhist funerary practices<http://www.routledge.com/books/details/9780415566360/>
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2011 13:43:00 +0000
From: Ben McDonald <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Academic ebooks
These are legitimate concerns regarding the Kindle, yet I must admit, I've still not found any eReaders that are better ergonomically than the Kindle DXG. It has a 9.7" display with Pearl e-Ink, which handles PDFs well and is gentle on the eyes... unlike my netbook, whose tiny, high-intensity LCD screen has my retinas bubbling after an hour or so. (A netbook is also far too unwieldy to read in any of the unorthodox positions we like to settle into when reading, be that in bed, on a beanbag, or half-on half-off a couch. Let's not forget that the act of reading is also spatial!)
Nevertheless, agreed that the Kindle has some real issues on the software and privacy front. Buyers beware. Incidentally, those same issues can also be fixed by an intrepid user, but that leads off into a grey area of what is "appropriate" to do with the technology you've paid for...
All the best,
Ben
On Sun, 6 Nov 2011 11:34:21 +0100, Margaret Gouin <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
On 6 November 2011 06:17, David Mattichak <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Hi all;
Amazon is the worst place to get e-books of any sort because of the deal
that they have going with kindle. I am not a big fan of the kindle, I see
it as a kind of toy really. The sony reader is good but limited. Smart
devices are good by the PC or laptop is the best. I suppose that tablets
would be good too but I haven't really looked at them much.
The Amazon Kindle kerfuffle is here:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/18/technology/companies/18amazon.html
Lawsuits resulted, as I understand; not only did Amazon arbitrarily delete
the books, but its action also deleted all the notes people had made on
those books. Some of those people were students and academics, and they
were upset. A note about Kindle: not only does Amazon know exactly what you
have on your device, and not only can Amazon arbitrarily alter that, it
also knows where you are. Avoid them. They aren't just toys, they're
invasive toys.
I have a Bebook One. It handles 23 formats including Microsoft .doc and
.ppt, .jpg (black and white) and music (mp3). Also .html, I can download
articles and web pages directly to the Bebook and read while travelling or
whatever. I wouldn't be without mine, but still find that for serious
studying, I need hard copy. For the best electronic reading, Dave is right,
a computer works better than any of the alternatives--an inexpensive
netbook is a lightweight and flexible reading platform. At least that's
what I've worked out for my own reading.
Pitch--google 'remove DRM from ebook' and see how many hits you get. Once
the DRM is off the file, it can be shared as widely as you wish. Of course
you would only do this to lend your books to friends...
Margaret
--
Margaret Gouin
http://independent.academia.edu/ad3b
Author, Tibetan Rituals of Death : Buddhist funerary
practices<http://www.routledge.com/books/details/9780415566360/>
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2011 06:17:52 -0800
From: Pitch <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Academic ebooks
Aloha,
On 11/5/2011 10:41 AM, janet ifimust wrote:
Is that the case, if the ebook has been stored elsewhere? Amazon can
delete something from my kindle - but if I have managed to store it
elsewhere, surely they would not be able to access it there? On a pen
drive, for example?
There are a range of possibilities here, depending on both
technical matters and an ereader user's willingness to go
beyond the letter of registration and warranty and digital
rights agreements.
Ereader--wireless--devices check in with their hosting servers
whenever they are able. Periodic check ins may even be required
for the ereader device to function easily in the hosting network
(that is, too long without a check in may lead to having to
reset the device and/or re-register back into the network).
So if the user wants to get ebooks from the edistributor,
the ereader has to stay more or less updated in the hosting
network. And the ereader device is reminded again and again
to search for files that are not supposed to be accessible by
the device. And get rid of them.
Edistributors cannot get at files user's store on separate chips
or drives. But users probably need to access those files with
ereaders intentionally set to an off-line status, if the files are
out of compliance with the edistributor's conditions in any manner.
And swap memory chips holding out of compliance files for
chips holding in compliance ones. Or take some other steps
to keep out of compliance files away from technical scrutiny.
Or users have to use other devices, like computers.
Reading and using the ebooks gets cumbersome. Users need
to swap chips in their ereader devices. Or switch among different
devices to access different (in compliance or out) files.
Ereader users who pay less attention to the strict requirements
of warranties, user registrations, and digital rights agreements
can, of course, find ways to use their devices in ways the
edistributors and authors and digital rights holders do not like.
Right now, I think that it's an open question how the academic
world looks at any out of compliance use or access of e-materials.
But I believe that, in cases involving physical printed materials, the
academic world upholds in compliance use and access.
Musing Users Have One Set of Needs & Expectations,
Workplaces, Authors, Publishers, & Distributors Have Others! Rose,
Pitch
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Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2011 07:27:12 -0700
From: Fritz Muntean <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: attending the AAR? There's an app for that!
Dear Ones,
You've probably already heard about this one, but if you (and your
iPhone) are attending the AAR, you'll want to check this out:
<http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/am11aar-sbl/id469535121?mt=8>
Bon temps rollez!
Fritz
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Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2011 07:45:50 -0800
From: Pitch <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Academic ebooks
Aloha,
On 11/6/2011 2:34 AM, Margaret Gouin wrote:
Pitch--google 'remove DRM from ebook' and see how many hits you get.
Once the DRM is off the file, it can be shared as widely as you wish.
Of course you would only do this to lend your books to friends...
Yes, ereader users may join the ranks of haxxors and leet haxxors,
modify components or elements of the warez that enable their devices
to do out of compliance things. We can take some pretty easy-to-do
steps to get our ereader devices to go beyond their designed-in
capabilities and functionality. Download a little software. Swap a
memory chip. Stuff like that.
Because, to remain in compliance with conditions of edistributor/
hosting network registration, device warranties, and digital rights
agreements, ereader devices are fettered. Out of the box, these
devices do not do all and everything that they--technically--potentially
can do. With a little hacking, higher end ereader devices (Color Nook,
for example) can be turned into pretty good Android tablet computers.
What's more, with a bit of care, the hacks can be done in a manner
that preserves (gives the hosting network the impression that)
the ereader device is in compliance and in warranty.
But the key question, for me, at least, is not: Which list members
are skillful enough and willing enough to hack their ereader devices?
The key question is: How does, or how will, the academic world
regard hacked ereader devices and out of compliance access and use
of ebooks and other electronic resources?
This is not a simple and easy sort of question.
Is out of compliance access to and use of an ebook, for instance,
a variety of plagiarism? It certainly is a violation of digital rights.
Digital rights agreements serve, among other things, to ensure that
authors get paid for the sale of electronic versions of their writings.
Does the academic world intend to condone out of compliance access
and use that keeps authors from getting paid? Or give it a wink and
a nod?
Plenty of list members are authors. Some are publishers. Some are
professional academics in universities and other organizations. Out
of compliance ereader use and ebook access may entangle employers
and the workplace in a variety of liabilities and condemnations from
parties that demand only in compliance use and access.
Or put some folks between two stools as users and digital rights holders.
Honestly, I can't say how I might answer questions like these.
I mean, I see the advantages of hacked devices and wide access to
ebooks. But I also see the advantages of authors and publishers
getting justly paid for their work.
And I gotta say that digital rights are far more complicated vis a
vis reader/users than copyright for physical books. It's fairly safe
to presume that all the physical books in a university library, for
instance, are in copyright or out. We can look at a page with a date.
But with ebooks, we encounter a situation in which the identical
file may be in compliance for some and out of compliance for others.
Maybe we can tell which is which. Maybe we can't.
What I am coming to realize more and more, however, is that ereaders
and their uses and technologies require academia and intellectuals
to think long and hard about stuff that we scarcely imagined a few
years ago.
Musing Am I A Freewheeling Haxxor Or Do I Go By The Book? Rose,
Pitch
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2011 16:06:44 +0000
From: Justin McKeown <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Academic ebooks
Thanks Dave,
J
Sent from my iPhone
On 6 Nov 2011, at 13:20, Dr Dave Evans <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
http://www.occultebooks.com/articles/de_Electrickerydeclineofprint.htm sorry trying to do 20 things at once!
On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 1:12 PM, Justin McKeown <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Hi Dave,
I couldn't see the link to your archiving article. Could you repost it to me?
Also on the subject of digital readers my Uni just gave me an iPad, which I'm finding very useful for ebooks and student dissertations alike. Though, as someone who is very computer literate, they are something of toy. They're for people who consume rather than create Information. I think that the division between those who consume and those who produce is something that is becoming more enshrined through the constructs of recent digital technology. Something to think about.
Justin
Sent from my iPhone
On 6 Nov 2011, at 10:44, Dr Dave Evans <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
on the archiving side, this is something i wrote on the subject about 10 years ago, laughably overtaken by time in places, which maybe illustrates how rapidly the subject is moving
yes re BeBook readers, i'm a convert too
Dave E
On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 10:34 AM, Margaret Gouin <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
On 6 November 2011 06:17, David Mattichak <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Hi all;
Amazon is the worst place to get e-books of any sort because of the deal that they have going with kindle. I am not a big fan of the kindle, I see it as a kind of toy really. The sony reader is good but limited. Smart devices are good by the PC or laptop is the best. I suppose that tablets would be good too but I haven't really looked at them much.
The Amazon Kindle kerfuffle is here:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/18/technology/companies/18amazon.html
Lawsuits resulted, as I understand; not only did Amazon arbitrarily delete the books, but its action also deleted all the notes people had made on those books. Some of those people were students and academics, and they were upset. A note about Kindle: not only does Amazon know exactly what you have on your device, and not only can Amazon arbitrarily alter that, it also knows where you are. Avoid them. They aren't just toys, they're invasive toys.
I have a Bebook One. It handles 23 formats including Microsoft .doc and .ppt, .jpg (black and white) and music (mp3). Also .html, I can download articles and web pages directly to the Bebook and read while travelling or whatever. I wouldn't be without mine, but still find that for serious studying, I need hard copy. For the best electronic reading, Dave is right, a computer works better than any of the alternatives--an inexpensive netbook is a lightweight and flexible reading platform. At least that's what I've worked out for my own reading.
Pitch--google 'remove DRM from ebook' and see how many hits you get. Once the DRM is off the file, it can be shared as widely as you wish. Of course you would only do this to lend your books to friends...
Margaret
--
Margaret Gouin
http://independent.academia.edu/ad3b
Author, Tibetan Rituals of Death : Buddhist funerary practices
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