I have written to anne and i will be writing the registrar of the NMC

steph nicoll
On 1 Nov 2011, at 12:09, Allison Caine wrote:

> Wow, like others this really makes my blood boil!
> I am Secretary of the NWOHG and we will be sending a response to  
> the NMC, once we have lobbied our members.
> I wonder if other group heads would do the same? I suggest this may  
> have more impact, together with responses from the OH Educators.
> I will be asking our members for comments but I wonder if members  
> of Jiscmail would mind posting theirs on the site, for inclusion in  
> all our responses.
> Kind regards
> Allison
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 1 Nov 2011, at 08:01, Sarah Witwicka <[log in to unmask]>  
> wrote:
>
>> How can a CEO publically declare that the organisation they work  
>> for (probably for a pretty good salary) "is a shambles"????
>>
>> a) What's he going to do about it...
>>
>> OR
>>
>> b) When uis he going to step aside and let someone else sort it  
>> out???
>>
>> Grrrrrrr....
>>
>>
>>
>> Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 19:18:04 +0100
>> From: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: [OCC-HEALTH] SCPHN register - OH Nursing
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>
>> Dear subscribers
>>
>> I would recommend that jisc subscribers have a look at this link:
>>
>>  http://www.nursingtimes.net/5036816.article?referrer=e1
>>
>> In fairness this is a link to a general nursing journal but it  
>> makes surprising reading. I am aware that Dickon Weir-Hughes CEO  
>> of the NMC is of the opinion that the SCPHN register is a  
>> shambles, he said as much when Diana Kloss, Helen Kirk and I met  
>> with him about a year ago. However, I am shocked that he does not  
>> consider OHNs to be public health practitioners.
>>
>> Although compliance by HEIs with the education standards set by  
>> the NMC is  very difficult  with respect to OHN education, it does  
>> not mean that OHNs do not practice public health. OHNs deal with  
>> populations and undertake a important public health function.  
>> Dickon Weir-Hughes states that OHNs see themselves more as nurses  
>> than SCPHNs. I don’t know why I am shocked by the position of the  
>> NMC  nothing from the NMC  should now surprise me.
>>
>> I would be interested in the view of the OHN subscribers to this  
>> list re this position.
>>
>> Anne.
>>
>> Anne Harriss
>> Course Director
>> LONDON SOUTH BANK UNIVERSITY
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 28/10/2011 13:38, "Carr Barnes" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Great discussion and I hope Nick isn't completely scared off by  
>> the range. Hopefully instead it is illustrating the wide variety  
>> of areas he could start considering. Occupational physiotherapy  
>> for instance is another developing field.
>>
>> As for title I have to disagree with Ann about calling myself an  
>> OHA for status. I do it because 'nurse' IMHO is and always will be  
>> associated with sickness, sick role, paternalism and hands on  
>> treatment by the lay community. I don't 'nurse', I advise on  
>> health management to both employer and employee and am proud to do  
>> so.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Carr
>> On Oct 28, 2011 12:33 p.m., "[log in to unmask]"  
>> <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hello Barry
>> >
>> > The focus on safety within SCPHN courses is variable, the LSBU  
>> course meets
>> > public health competencies but has three of six units covering  
>> safety and
>> > management of environmental impact. I would hope our graduates  
>> would work
>> > collaboratively within the broad H&S team.
>> >
>> > The current South Bank SCPHN OH courses do not have units with  
>> shared
>> > classroom learning with School nurses (SNs) and Health Visitors  
>> (HVs).
>> > Courses in some other HEIs have more core material delivered  
>> across the
>> > board to OH/HV/SNs and so the focus of those courses is very  
>> much generic
>> > public health. Having said that, there is no reason for those  
>> with less H&S
>> > material in their OH courses not to work collaboratively with  
>> our H&S
>> > colleagues.
>> >
>> > Anne
>> > Anne Harriss
>> > Course Director
>> > LONDON SOUTH BANK UNIVERSITY
>> >
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