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Hi all,
I was interested in the discussion about Pathways to Impact over the last couple of days. It's fantastic to hear about the various iniatives to pair communication professionals and researchers.
Here at the University of Edinburgh many departments and research centres in the social sciences and humanities have dedicated knowledge exchange or research management staff, whose remit includes providing advice and support to researchers drafting Pathways to Impact sections of grant applications. For instance, in my own role I'm available to any of the 150 researchers in our research network to sit down, brainstorm audiences and stakeholders, arrange introductions if need be, and develop an engagement/impact plan for their project. I can also provide feedback on the draft PtI document as the grant application comes together. In addition to this local support there is also advice and training workshops provided centrally by the university's main research office specifically about the PtI.
I'm unsure of the situation in the sciences but I'm surprised (and sad) that any researcher applying for funding wouldn't have someone, somewhere in the university, available to support them in this way - if not in their immediate department, then in the central university research office. My own network has specific funding provision to support knowledge exchange so I'm aware we're very lucky to have this kind of dedicated local resource - but I wondered if researchers elsewhere really are entirely unsupported in this by their research offices? It would seem a terrible shame in these days when research impact is given such a high priority by the research councils, but if resources are stretched I can imagine it may not be possible. I wonder if though part of the problem may be that researchers aren't always aware of the support that's available to them - something that's easier to address at least than absence of resources.
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Dear all,
I've recently been pondering the 'pathway to impacts' section of NERC funding applications (I'm sure there are equivalent sections in other RC apps; NERC is just the body I am familiar with). From discussing with colleagues/friends (scientists) this is a section that proposal writers struggle with, and thus is often something of an afterthought, which is a shame. I don't think a well thought-ought science project would be made, or broken by its PtI, but it seems a shame that the opportunity for funding for impact strategies isn't made the most of.
A key issue seems to that the scientists (who have concieved the project and are writing the proposal) lack existing experience/network of contacts with people who understand the best strategies to achieve impact. This is especially true for early-stage researchers (like myself) who are writing fellowship apps, working in fields that are more 'blue-skies' in subject matter (e.g. I'm less likely to have had industry contacts). Thus we have some enthusiasm, and vague ideas of trying to increase impact of our work, but also sneaking suspicion that our approach might be naive and ineffective. This make PtI feel like a burden, rather than an opportunity.
I am wondering if there is any scope/enthusiasm for trying to set up a sort-of one-stop-shop 'matchmaking' scheme between scientists, and science policy and science communication people, to feed in at the grant proposal writing stages. E.g. scientist had a project idea, goes to website, uploads short list of their envisaged impact areas (perhaps these could be broadly pre-defined...?); sci policy/sci comm peeps interested in to areas get email notification, and if they want they can contact scientists with expression of interest of being involved in helping develop PtI on a way that achieves ends. As there is grant budget available, this wouldn't need to be completely altruistic on part of the second person!
This is just a vague idea in my head, so I wanted to test out people reactions. It just seems silly to me that this RC money isn't used effectively, especially as funding becomes more scarce...
I'd love to hear your thoughts
Thanks
Tori
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This seems like a good idea we are professional science communicators who
have worked with and for thousands of people over 5yrs but have never worked
with a scientist to help them develop and deliver their message. I know we
could help, so yes if this goes ahead please sign us up.
Best Wishes
Mark Walton
Hands on Science Ltd
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Dear all,
I've recently been pondering the 'pathway to impacts' section of NERC
funding applications (I'm sure there are equivalent sections in other RC
apps; NERC is just the body I am familiar with). From discussing with
colleagues/friends (scientists) this is a section that proposal writers
struggle with, and thus is often something of an afterthought, which is a
shame. I don't think a well thought-ought science project would be made, or
broken by its PtI, but it seems a shame that the opportunity for funding for
impact strategies isn't made the most of.
A key issue seems to that the scientists (who have concieved the project and
are writing the proposal) lack existing experience/network of contacts with
people who understand the best strategies to achieve impact. This is
especially true for early-stage researchers (like myself) who are writing
fellowship apps, working in fields that are more 'blue-skies' in subject
matter (e.g. I'm less likely to have had industry contacts). Thus we have
some enthusiasm, and vague ideas of trying to increase impact of our work,
but also sneaking suspicion that our approach might be naive and
ineffective. This make PtI feel like a burden, rather than an opportunity.
I am wondering if there is any scope/enthusiasm for trying to set up a
sort-of one-stop-shop 'matchmaking' scheme between scientists, and science
policy and science communication people, to feed in at the grant proposal
writing stages. E.g. scientist had a project idea, goes to website, uploads
short list of their envisaged impact areas (perhaps these could be broadly
pre-defined...?); sci policy/sci comm peeps interested in to areas get email
notification, and if they want they can contact scientists with expression
of interest of being involved in helping develop PtI on a way that achieves
ends. As there is grant budget available, this wouldn't need to be
completely altruistic on part of the second person!
This is just a vague idea in my head, so I wanted to test out people
reactions. It just seems silly to me that this RC money isn't used
effectively, especially as funding becomes more scarce...
I'd love to hear your thoughts
Thanks
Tori
---
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Department of Palaeontology
Natural History Museum
London
SW7 5BD
tel. +44 (0)20 7942 5477
[log in to unmask]
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Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 11:23:56 +0000
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Dear All,
Connected to this, we're running a free workshop for administrative staff who support EPSRC-funded research at the Dana Centre on the 31st of October - it focuses on Public Engagement as part of the pathways to impact.
There's more information here (including contact information and how to book) - http://www.britishscienceassociation.org/web/ScienceinSociety/EPSRC_workshops/index.htm
Please feel free to contact me off-list if you have any questions.
Best wishes,
Toby Shannon
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This seems like a good idea we are professional science communicators who have worked with and for thousands of people over 5yrs but have never worked with a scientist to help them develop and deliver their message. I know we could help, so yes if this goes ahead please sign us up.
Best Wishes
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Dear all,
I've recently been pondering the 'pathway to impacts' section of NERC funding applications (I'm sure there are equivalent sections in other RC apps; NERC is just the body I am familiar with). From discussing with colleagues/friends (scientists) this is a section that proposal writers struggle with, and thus is often something of an afterthought, which is a shame. I don't think a well thought-ought science project would be made, or broken by its PtI, but it seems a shame that the opportunity for funding for impact strategies isn't made the most of.
A key issue seems to that the scientists (who have concieved the project and are writing the proposal) lack existing experience/network of contacts with people who understand the best strategies to achieve impact. This is especially true for early-stage researchers (like myself) who are writing fellowship apps, working in fields that are more 'blue-skies' in subject matter (e.g. I'm less likely to have had industry contacts). Thus we have some enthusiasm, and vague ideas of trying to increase impact of our work, but also sneaking suspicion that our approach might be naive and ineffective. This make PtI feel like a burden, rather than an opportunity.
I am wondering if there is any scope/enthusiasm for trying to set up a sort-of one-stop-shop 'matchmaking' scheme between scientists, and science policy and science communication people, to feed in at the grant proposal writing stages. E.g. scientist had a project idea, goes to website, uploads short list of their envisaged impact areas (perhaps these could be broadly pre-defined...?); sci policy/sci comm peeps interested in to areas get email notification, and if they want they can contact scientists with expression of interest of being involved in helping develop PtI on a way that achieves ends. As there is grant budget available, this wouldn't need to be completely altruistic on part of the second person!
This is just a vague idea in my head, so I wanted to test out people reactions. It just seems silly to me that this RC money isn't used effectively, especially as funding becomes more scarce...
I'd love to hear your thoughts
Thanks
Tori
---
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Department of Palaeontology
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SW7 5BD
tel. +44 (0)20 7942 5477
[log in to unmask]
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Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 12:40:27 +0100
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Subject: Re: 'pathways to impact'
I am a statistician. I've been asked to suggest methodologies for measuring
impact. We have a set of documents D1, and we want to measure their impact
upon policy embedded in documents D2.
Can anyone advise me on this please?
Thanks
JOHN BIBBY
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> This seems like a good idea we are professional science communicators who
> have worked with and for thousands of people over 5yrs but have never
> worked
> with a scientist to help them develop and deliver their message. I know we
> could help, so yes if this goes ahead please sign us up.
> Best Wishes
> Mark Walton
> Hands on Science Ltd
> Bringing Science to Life
>
> 07710 087259
> www.hands-on-science.co.uk
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: psci-com: on public engagement with science
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Victoria Herridge
> Sent: 07 October 2011 11:42
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: [PSCI-COM] 'pathways to impact'
>
> Dear all,
>
> I've recently been pondering the 'pathway to impacts' section of NERC
> funding applications (I'm sure there are equivalent sections in other RC
> apps; NERC is just the body I am familiar with). From discussing with
> colleagues/friends (scientists) this is a section that proposal writers
> struggle with, and thus is often something of an afterthought, which is a
> shame. I don't think a well thought-ought science project would be made, or
> broken by its PtI, but it seems a shame that the opportunity for funding
> for
> impact strategies isn't made the most of.
>
> A key issue seems to that the scientists (who have concieved the project
> and
> are writing the proposal) lack existing experience/network of contacts with
> people who understand the best strategies to achieve impact. This is
> especially true for early-stage researchers (like myself) who are writing
> fellowship apps, working in fields that are more 'blue-skies' in subject
> matter (e.g. I'm less likely to have had industry contacts). Thus we have
> some enthusiasm, and vague ideas of trying to increase impact of our work,
> but also sneaking suspicion that our approach might be naive and
> ineffective. This make PtI feel like a burden, rather than an opportunity.
>
> I am wondering if there is any scope/enthusiasm for trying to set up a
> sort-of one-stop-shop 'matchmaking' scheme between scientists, and science
> policy and science communication people, to feed in at the grant proposal
> writing stages. E.g. scientist had a project idea, goes to website, uploads
> short list of their envisaged impact areas (perhaps these could be broadly
> pre-defined...?); sci policy/sci comm peeps interested in to areas get
> email
> notification, and if they want they can contact scientists with expression
> of interest of being involved in helping develop PtI on a way that achieves
> ends. As there is grant budget available, this wouldn't need to be
> completely altruistic on part of the second person!
>
> This is just a vague idea in my head, so I wanted to test out people
> reactions. It just seems silly to me that this RC money isn't used
> effectively, especially as funding becomes more scarce...
>
> I'd love to hear your thoughts
>
> Thanks
>
> Tori
> ---
> Dr. Victoria Herridge
> Department of Palaeontology
> Natural History Museum
> London
> SW7 5BD
>
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>
> [log in to unmask]
> [log in to unmask]
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Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 12:54:53 +0100
From: Jon Turney <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: 'pathways to impact'
if that is a serious question, I think answering it may need a historian,
not a statistician... and a large budget for interviews with all the
actors in the policy process in question.
On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 12:40 PM, John Bibby <[log in to unmask]>wrote:
> I am a statistician. I've been asked to suggest methodologies for measuring
> impact. We have a set of documents D1, and we want to measure their impact
> upon policy embedded in documents D2.
>
> Can anyone advise me on this please?
>
> Thanks
>
> JOHN BIBBY
>
>
>
> On 7 October 2011 12:05, Mark Hands on Science <
> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> This seems like a good idea we are professional science communicators who
>> have worked with and for thousands of people over 5yrs but have never
>> worked
>> with a scientist to help them develop and deliver their message. I know we
>> could help, so yes if this goes ahead please sign us up.
>> Best Wishes
>> Mark Walton
>> Hands on Science Ltd
>> Bringing Science to Life
>>
>> 07710 087259
>> www.hands-on-science.co.uk
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: psci-com: on public engagement with science
>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Victoria Herridge
>> Sent: 07 October 2011 11:42
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: [PSCI-COM] 'pathways to impact'
>>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> I've recently been pondering the 'pathway to impacts' section of NERC
>> funding applications (I'm sure there are equivalent sections in other RC
>> apps; NERC is just the body I am familiar with). From discussing with
>> colleagues/friends (scientists) this is a section that proposal writers
>> struggle with, and thus is often something of an afterthought, which is a
>> shame. I don't think a well thought-ought science project would be made,
>> or
>> broken by its PtI, but it seems a shame that the opportunity for funding
>> for
>> impact strategies isn't made the most of.
>>
>> A key issue seems to that the scientists (who have concieved the project
>> and
>> are writing the proposal) lack existing experience/network of contacts
>> with
>> people who understand the best strategies to achieve impact. This is
>> especially true for early-stage researchers (like myself) who are writing
>> fellowship apps, working in fields that are more 'blue-skies' in subject
>> matter (e.g. I'm less likely to have had industry contacts). Thus we have
>> some enthusiasm, and vague ideas of trying to increase impact of our work,
>> but also sneaking suspicion that our approach might be naive and
>> ineffective. This make PtI feel like a burden, rather than an opportunity.
>>
>> I am wondering if there is any scope/enthusiasm for trying to set up a
>> sort-of one-stop-shop 'matchmaking' scheme between scientists, and science
>> policy and science communication people, to feed in at the grant proposal
>> writing stages. E.g. scientist had a project idea, goes to website,
>> uploads
>> short list of their envisaged impact areas (perhaps these could be broadly
>> pre-defined...?); sci policy/sci comm peeps interested in to areas get
>> email
>> notification, and if they want they can contact scientists with expression
>> of interest of being involved in helping develop PtI on a way that
>> achieves
>> ends. As there is grant budget available, this wouldn't need to be
>> completely altruistic on part of the second person!
>>
>> This is just a vague idea in my head, so I wanted to test out people
>> reactions. It just seems silly to me that this RC money isn't used
>> effectively, especially as funding becomes more scarce...
>>
>> I'd love to hear your thoughts
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Tori
>> ---
>> Dr. Victoria Herridge
>> Department of Palaeontology
>> Natural History Museum
>> London
>> SW7 5BD
>>
>> tel. +44 (0)20 7942 5477
>>
>> [log in to unmask]
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Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 13:23:28 +0100
From: John Bibby <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: 'pathways to impact'
On 7 October 2011 12:54, Jon Turney <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> if that is a serious question, I think answering it may need a historian,
> not a statistician... and a large budget for interviews with all the
> actors in the policy process in question.
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 12:40 PM, John Bibby <[log in to unmask]>wrote:
>
>> I am a statistician. I've been asked to suggest methodologies for
>> measuring impact. We have a set of documents D1, and we want to measure
>> their impact upon policy embedded in documents D2.
>>
>> Can anyone advise me on this please?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> JOHN BIBBY
>>
>>
>>
>> On 7 October 2011 12:05, Mark Hands on Science <
>> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>>> This seems like a good idea we are professional science communicators who
>>> have worked with and for thousands of people over 5yrs but have never
>>> worked
>>> with a scientist to help them develop and deliver their message. I know
>>> we
>>> could help, so yes if this goes ahead please sign us up.
>>> Best Wishes
>>> Mark Walton
>>> Hands on Science Ltd
>>> Bringing Science to Life
>>>
>>> 07710 087259
>>> www.hands-on-science.co.uk
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: psci-com: on public engagement with science
>>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Victoria Herridge
>>> Sent: 07 October 2011 11:42
>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>> Subject: [PSCI-COM] 'pathways to impact'
>>>
>>> Dear all,
>>>
>>> I've recently been pondering the 'pathway to impacts' section of NERC
>>> funding applications (I'm sure there are equivalent sections in other RC
>>> apps; NERC is just the body I am familiar with). From discussing with
>>> colleagues/friends (scientists) this is a section that proposal writers
>>> struggle with, and thus is often something of an afterthought, which is a
>>> shame. I don't think a well thought-ought science project would be made,
>>> or
>>> broken by its PtI, but it seems a shame that the opportunity for funding
>>> for
>>> impact strategies isn't made the most of.
>>>
>>> A key issue seems to that the scientists (who have concieved the project
>>> and
>>> are writing the proposal) lack existing experience/network of contacts
>>> with
>>> people who understand the best strategies to achieve impact. This is
>>> especially true for early-stage researchers (like myself) who are writing
>>> fellowship apps, working in fields that are more 'blue-skies' in subject
>>> matter (e.g. I'm less likely to have had industry contacts). Thus we have
>>> some enthusiasm, and vague ideas of trying to increase impact of our
>>> work,
>>> but also sneaking suspicion that our approach might be naive and
>>> ineffective. This make PtI feel like a burden, rather than an
>>> opportunity.
>>>
>>> I am wondering if there is any scope/enthusiasm for trying to set up a
>>> sort-of one-stop-shop 'matchmaking' scheme between scientists, and
>>> science
>>> policy and science communication people, to feed in at the grant proposal
>>> writing stages. E.g. scientist had a project idea, goes to website,
>>> uploads
>>> short list of their envisaged impact areas (perhaps these could be
>>> broadly
>>> pre-defined...?); sci policy/sci comm peeps interested in to areas get
>>> email
>>> notification, and if they want they can contact scientists with
>>> expression
>>> of interest of being involved in helping develop PtI on a way that
>>> achieves
>>> ends. As there is grant budget available, this wouldn't need to be
>>> completely altruistic on part of the second person!
>>>
>>> This is just a vague idea in my head, so I wanted to test out people
>>> reactions. It just seems silly to me that this RC money isn't used
>>> effectively, especially as funding becomes more scarce...
>>>
>>> I'd love to hear your thoughts
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Tori
>>> ---
>>> Dr. Victoria Herridge
>>> Department of Palaeontology
>>> Natural History Museum
>>> London
>>> SW7 5BD
>>>
>>> tel. +44 (0)20 7942 5477
>>>
>>> [log in to unmask]
>>> [log in to unmask]
>>>
>>> skype: victoriaherridge
>>>
>>> follow me on Twitter: @ToriHerridge
>>>
>>> my research: http://tinyurl.com/medidwarf (click on the Mediterranean)
>>>
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Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 13:26:57 +0100
From: John Bibby <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: 'pathways to impact'
Hi Jon
Yes, it was meant to be serious! (The team is full of
economists/historians/social & politicspopulo - I am the sole statistician
which is why I was asked to look into this aspect.)
It's government-funded. The idea is that if the suits know where the impact
comes from, then they'll know which research grants to cut. (Otherwise
they'll cut anyhow - on the basis of ignorance rather than
statistically-inspired ignorance.)
JOHN B
On 7 October 2011 12:54, Jon Turney <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> if that is a serious question, I think answering it may need a historian,
> not a statistician... and a large budget for interviews with all the
> actors in the policy process in question.
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 12:40 PM, John Bibby <[log in to unmask]>wrote:
>
>> I am a statistician. I've been asked to suggest methodologies for
>> measuring impact. We have a set of documents D1, and we want to measure
>> their impact upon policy embedded in documents D2.
>>
>> Can anyone advise me on this please?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> JOHN BIBBY
>>
>>
>>
>> On 7 October 2011 12:05, Mark Hands on Science <
>> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>>> This seems like a good idea we are professional science communicators who
>>> have worked with and for thousands of people over 5yrs but have never
>>> worked
>>> with a scientist to help them develop and deliver their message. I know
>>> we
>>> could help, so yes if this goes ahead please sign us up.
>>> Best Wishes
>>> Mark Walton
>>> Hands on Science Ltd
>>> Bringing Science to Life
>>>
>>> 07710 087259
>>> www.hands-on-science.co.uk
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: psci-com: on public engagement with science
>>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Victoria Herridge
>>> Sent: 07 October 2011 11:42
>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>> Subject: [PSCI-COM] 'pathways to impact'
>>>
>>> Dear all,
>>>
>>> I've recently been pondering the 'pathway to impacts' section of NERC
>>> funding applications (I'm sure there are equivalent sections in other RC
>>> apps; NERC is just the body I am familiar with). From discussing with
>>> colleagues/friends (scientists) this is a section that proposal writers
>>> struggle with, and thus is often something of an afterthought, which is a
>>> shame. I don't think a well thought-ought science project would be made,
>>> or
>>> broken by its PtI, but it seems a shame that the opportunity for funding
>>> for
>>> impact strategies isn't made the most of.
>>>
>>> A key issue seems to that the scientists (who have concieved the project
>>> and
>>> are writing the proposal) lack existing experience/network of contacts
>>> with
>>> people who understand the best strategies to achieve impact. This is
>>> especially true for early-stage researchers (like myself) who are writing
>>> fellowship apps, working in fields that are more 'blue-skies' in subject
>>> matter (e.g. I'm less likely to have had industry contacts). Thus we have
>>> some enthusiasm, and vague ideas of trying to increase impact of our
>>> work,
>>> but also sneaking suspicion that our approach might be naive and
>>> ineffective. This make PtI feel like a burden, rather than an
>>> opportunity.
>>>
>>> I am wondering if there is any scope/enthusiasm for trying to set up a
>>> sort-of one-stop-shop 'matchmaking' scheme between scientists, and
>>> science
>>> policy and science communication people, to feed in at the grant proposal
>>> writing stages. E.g. scientist had a project idea, goes to website,
>>> uploads
>>> short list of their envisaged impact areas (perhaps these could be
>>> broadly
>>> pre-defined...?); sci policy/sci comm peeps interested in to areas get
>>> email
>>> notification, and if they want they can contact scientists with
>>> expression
>>> of interest of being involved in helping develop PtI on a way that
>>> achieves
>>> ends. As there is grant budget available, this wouldn't need to be
>>> completely altruistic on part of the second person!
>>>
>>> This is just a vague idea in my head, so I wanted to test out people
>>> reactions. It just seems silly to me that this RC money isn't used
>>> effectively, especially as funding becomes more scarce...
>>>
>>> I'd love to hear your thoughts
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Tori
>>> ---
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Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 14:31:33 +0100
From: Mark Hands on Science <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: 'pathways to impact'
This seems like a good idea we are professional science communicators who
have worked with and for thousands of people over 5yrs but have never worked
with a scientist to help them develop and deliver their message. I know we
could help, so yes if this goes ahead please sign us up.
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Sent: 07 October 2011 11:42
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Subject: [PSCI-COM] 'pathways to impact'
Dear all,
I've recently been pondering the 'pathway to impacts' section of NERC
funding applications (I'm sure there are equivalent sections in other RC
apps; NERC is just the body I am familiar with). From discussing with
colleagues/friends (scientists) this is a section that proposal writers
struggle with, and thus is often something of an afterthought, which is a
shame. I don't think a well thought-ought science project would be made, or
broken by its PtI, but it seems a shame that the opportunity for funding for
impact strategies isn't made the most of.
A key issue seems to that the scientists (who have concieved the project and
are writing the proposal) lack existing experience/network of contacts with
people who understand the best strategies to achieve impact. This is
especially true for early-stage researchers (like myself) who are writing
fellowship apps, working in fields that are more 'blue-skies' in subject
matter (e.g. I'm less likely to have had industry contacts). Thus we have
some enthusiasm, and vague ideas of trying to increase impact of our work,
but also sneaking suspicion that our approach might be naive and
ineffective. This make PtI feel like a burden, rather than an opportunity.
I am wondering if there is any scope/enthusiasm for trying to set up a
sort-of one-stop-shop 'matchmaking' scheme between scientists, and science
policy and science communication people, to feed in at the grant proposal
writing stages. E.g. scientist had a project idea, goes to website, uploads
short list of their envisaged impact areas (perhaps these could be broadly
pre-defined...?); sci policy/sci comm peeps interested in to areas get email
notification, and if they want they can contact scientists with expression
of interest of being involved in helping develop PtI on a way that achieves
ends. As there is grant budget available, this wouldn't need to be
completely altruistic on part of the second person!
This is just a vague idea in my head, so I wanted to test out people
reactions. It just seems silly to me that this RC money isn't used
effectively, especially as funding becomes more scarce...
I'd love to hear your thoughts
Thanks
Tori
---
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Department of Palaeontology
Natural History Museum
London
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Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 15:08:35 +0100
From: jenny koenig <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Women's Institute audiences
If any scientists are looking for an audience for a talk or
demonstration I can thoroughly recommend getting in touch with your
local Women's Institute. I have done a number of talks for local WI
groups in the last few years and they are very appreciative and
interested and keen to get scientists to speak.
Go to their website and get the contact details for your local
federation who draw up a speakers list each year. I found that I was
initially asked to pay to be included on their speakers list but once I
explained that I was talking on behalf of a charity (at the time I was
funded by a medical research charity) they waived the fee. (I think
sometimes they get people to speak who then want to sell them things and
then they ask the speaker to pay).
Just recently I gave a 30min talk on the history of asthma medicines
explaining how and why the herbal medicines used a hundred years ago had
been replaced by the inhalers of today. The 30min of discussion that
followed touched on lots of related areas including homeopathy, side
effects of drugs and plant poisons to mention just a few.
I really enjoyed myself and thought others might be interested.
Best wishes
Jenny
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Subject: Re: 'pathways to impact'
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From: psci-com: on public engagement with science [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of John Bibby
Sent: 07 October 2011 13:27
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Hi Jon
Yes, it was meant to be serious! (The team is full of economists/historians/social & politicspopulo - I am the sole statistician which is why I was asked to look into this aspect.)
It's government-funded. The idea is that if the suits know where the impact comes from, then they'll know which research grants to cut. (Otherwise they'll cut anyhow - on the basis of ignorance rather than statistically-inspired ignorance.)
JOHN B
On 7 October 2011 12:54, Jon Turney <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
if that is a serious question, I think answering it may need a historian, not a statistician... and a large budget for interviews with all the actors in the policy process in question.
On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 12:40 PM, John Bibby <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
I am a statistician. I've been asked to suggest methodologies for measuring impact. We have a set of documents D1, and we want to measure their impact upon policy embedded in documents D2.
Can anyone advise me on this please?
Thanks
JOHN BIBBY
On 7 October 2011 12:05, Mark Hands on Science <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
This seems like a good idea we are professional science communicators who
have worked with and for thousands of people over 5yrs but have never worked
with a scientist to help them develop and deliver their message. I know we
could help, so yes if this goes ahead please sign us up.
Best Wishes
Mark Walton
Hands on Science Ltd
Bringing Science to Life
07710 087259<tel:07710%20087259>
www.hands-on-science.co.uk<http://www.hands-on-science.co.uk>
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Subject: [PSCI-COM] 'pathways to impact'
Dear all,
I've recently been pondering the 'pathway to impacts' section of NERC
funding applications (I'm sure there are equivalent sections in other RC
apps; NERC is just the body I am familiar with). From discussing with
colleagues/friends (scientists) this is a section that proposal writers
struggle with, and thus is often something of an afterthought, which is a
shame. I don't think a well thought-ought science project would be made, or
broken by its PtI, but it seems a shame that the opportunity for funding for
impact strategies isn't made the most of.
A key issue seems to that the scientists (who have concieved the project and
are writing the proposal) lack existing experience/network of contacts with
people who understand the best strategies to achieve impact. This is
especially true for early-stage researchers (like myself) who are writing
fellowship apps, working in fields that are more 'blue-skies' in subject
matter (e.g. I'm less likely to have had industry contacts). Thus we have
some enthusiasm, and vague ideas of trying to increase impact of our work,
but also sneaking suspicion that our approach might be naive and
ineffective. This make PtI feel like a burden, rather than an opportunity.
I am wondering if there is any scope/enthusiasm for trying to set up a
sort-of one-stop-shop 'matchmaking' scheme between scientists, and science
policy and science communication people, to feed in at the grant proposal
writing stages. E.g. scientist had a project idea, goes to website, uploads
short list of their envisaged impact areas (perhaps these could be broadly
pre-defined...?); sci policy/sci comm peeps interested in to areas get email
notification, and if they want they can contact scientists with expression
of interest of being involved in helping develop PtI on a way that achieves
ends. As there is grant budget available, this wouldn't need to be
completely altruistic on part of the second person!
This is just a vague idea in my head, so I wanted to test out people
reactions. It just seems silly to me that this RC money isn't used
effectively, especially as funding becomes more scarce...
I'd love to hear your thoughts
Thanks
Tori
---
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Department of Palaeontology
Natural History Museum
London
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tel. +44 (0)20 7942 5477<tel:%2B44%20%280%2920%207942%205477>
[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>
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Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 14:12:51 +0000
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Subject: Re: 'pathways to impact'
Just to flag up this online matching service from the Beacons to help researchers, impact analysts and information experts find one another http://nccpe1.ning.com/
'NCCPE partners with JISC on new funding call to build capacity in analysing research impact
The Joint Information Systems Committee (JISC) has just launched a new funding call to encourage skills sharing between researchers, engagement practitioners and information management specialists. The project, facilitated by the NCCPE, focuses on the highly topical area of research impact and invites people to form partnerships in order to explore how to embed technology-enabled good practice in impact analysis across research departments. The deadline for applications is the 31 October 2011
JISC are looking for bids from partnerships of the following people
■Impact analysts: those with specific expertise in business and community engagement
■Information Management Specialists: with experience of using IT to support impact analysis
■Research groups seeking to demonstrate the impact of their work.
We have developed an online matching service to help researchers, impact analysts and information experts to find one another. We hope you will want to get involved.'
Amy Lothian
Science in Society Officer
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From: psci-com: on public engagement with science [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of John Bibby
Sent: 07 October 2011 13:27
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [PSCI-COM] 'pathways to impact'
Hi Jon
Yes, it was meant to be serious! (The team is full of economists/historians/social & politicspopulo - I am the sole statistician which is why I was asked to look into this aspect.)
It's government-funded. The idea is that if the suits know where the impact comes from, then they'll know which research grants to cut. (Otherwise they'll cut anyhow - on the basis of ignorance rather than statistically-inspired ignorance.)
JOHN B
On 7 October 2011 12:54, Jon Turney <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
if that is a serious question, I think answering it may need a historian, not a statistician... and a large budget for interviews with all the actors in the policy process in question.
On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 12:40 PM, John Bibby <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
I am a statistician. I've been asked to suggest methodologies for measuring impact. We have a set of documents D1, and we want to measure their impact upon policy embedded in documents D2.
Can anyone advise me on this please?
Thanks
JOHN BIBBY
On 7 October 2011 12:05, Mark Hands on Science <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
This seems like a good idea we are professional science communicators who
have worked with and for thousands of people over 5yrs but have never worked
with a scientist to help them develop and deliver their message. I know we
could help, so yes if this goes ahead please sign us up.
Best Wishes
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Dear all,
I've recently been pondering the 'pathway to impacts' section of NERC
funding applications (I'm sure there are equivalent sections in other RC
apps; NERC is just the body I am familiar with). From discussing with
colleagues/friends (scientists) this is a section that proposal writers
struggle with, and thus is often something of an afterthought, which is a
shame. I don't think a well thought-ought science project would be made, or
broken by its PtI, but it seems a shame that the opportunity for funding for
impact strategies isn't made the most of.
A key issue seems to that the scientists (who have concieved the project and
are writing the proposal) lack existing experience/network of contacts with
people who understand the best strategies to achieve impact. This is
especially true for early-stage researchers (like myself) who are writing
fellowship apps, working in fields that are more 'blue-skies' in subject
matter (e.g. I'm less likely to have had industry contacts). Thus we have
some enthusiasm, and vague ideas of trying to increase impact of our work,
but also sneaking suspicion that our approach might be naive and
ineffective. This make PtI feel like a burden, rather than an opportunity.
I am wondering if there is any scope/enthusiasm for trying to set up a
sort-of one-stop-shop 'matchmaking' scheme between scientists, and science
policy and science communication people, to feed in at the grant proposal
writing stages. E.g. scientist had a project idea, goes to website, uploads
short list of their envisaged impact areas (perhaps these could be broadly
pre-defined...?); sci policy/sci comm peeps interested in to areas get email
notification, and if they want they can contact scientists with expression
of interest of being involved in helping develop PtI on a way that achieves
ends. As there is grant budget available, this wouldn't need to be
completely altruistic on part of the second person!
This is just a vague idea in my head, so I wanted to test out people
reactions. It just seems silly to me that this RC money isn't used
effectively, especially as funding becomes more scarce...
I'd love to hear your thoughts
Thanks
Tori
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Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 15:20:59 +0100
From: Victoria Herridge <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: 'pathways to impact'
thanks Amy, that is very interesting!
Tori
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On 7 Oct 2011, at 15:12, Amy Lothian wrote:
> Just to flag up this online matching service from the Beacons to help researchers, impact analysts and information experts find one anotherhttp://nccpe1.ning.com/
>
> ‘NCCPE partners with JISC on new funding call to build capacity in analysing research impact
> The Joint Information Systems Committee (JISC) has just launched a new funding call to encourage skills sharing between researchers, engagement practitioners and information management specialists. The project, facilitated by the NCCPE, focuses on the highly topical area of research impact and invites people to form partnerships in order to explore how to embed technology-enabled good practice in impact analysis across research departments. The deadline for applications is the 31 October 2011
>
> JISC are looking for bids from partnerships of the following people
> ■Impact analysts: those with specific expertise in business and community engagement
> ■Information Management Specialists: with experience of using IT to support impact analysis
> ■Research groups seeking to demonstrate the impact of their work.
>
> We have developed an online matching service to help researchers, impact analysts and information experts to find one another. We hope you will want to get involved.’
>
> Amy Lothian
> Science in Society Officer
> British Science Association
>
> From: psci-com: on public engagement with science [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of John Bibby
> Sent: 07 October 2011 13:27
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [PSCI-COM] 'pathways to impact'
>
> Hi Jon
>
> Yes, it was meant to be serious! (The team is full of economists/historians/social & politicspopulo - I am the sole statistician which is why I was asked to look into this aspect.)
>
> It's government-funded. The idea is that if the suits know where the impact comes from, then they'll know which research grants to cut. (Otherwise they'll cut anyhow - on the basis of ignorance rather than statistically-inspired ignorance.)
>
> JOHN B
>
> On 7 October 2011 12:54, Jon Turney <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> if that is a serious question, I think answering it may need a historian, not a statistician... and a large budget for interviews with all the actors in the policy process in question.
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 12:40 PM, John Bibby <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> I am a statistician. I've been asked to suggest methodologies for measuring impact. We have a set of documents D1, and we want to measure their impact upon policy embedded in documents D2.
>
> Can anyone advise me on this please?
>
> Thanks
>
> JOHN BIBBY
>
>
>
> On 7 October 2011 12:05, Mark Hands on Science <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> This seems like a good idea we are professional science communicators who
> have worked with and for thousands of people over 5yrs but have never worked
> with a scientist to help them develop and deliver their message. I know we
> could help, so yes if this goes ahead please sign us up.
> Best Wishes
> Mark Walton
> Hands on Science Ltd
> Bringing Science to Life
>
> 07710 087259
> www.hands-on-science.co.uk
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: psci-com: on public engagement with science
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Victoria Herridge
> Sent: 07 October 2011 11:42
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: [PSCI-COM] 'pathways to impact'
>
> Dear all,
>
> I've recently been pondering the 'pathway to impacts' section of NERC
> funding applications (I'm sure there are equivalent sections in other RC
> apps; NERC is just the body I am familiar with). From discussing with
> colleagues/friends (scientists) this is a section that proposal writers
> struggle with, and thus is often something of an afterthought, which is a
> shame. I don't think a well thought-ought science project would be made, or
> broken by its PtI, but it seems a shame that the opportunity for funding for
> impact strategies isn't made the most of.
>
> A key issue seems to that the scientists (who have concieved the project and
> are writing the proposal) lack existing experience/network of contacts with
> people who understand the best strategies to achieve impact. This is
> especially true for early-stage researchers (like myself) who are writing
> fellowship apps, working in fields that are more 'blue-skies' in subject
> matter (e.g. I'm less likely to have had industry contacts). Thus we have
> some enthusiasm, and vague ideas of trying to increase impact of our work,
> but also sneaking suspicion that our approach might be naive and
> ineffective. This make PtI feel like a burden, rather than an opportunity.
>
> I am wondering if there is any scope/enthusiasm for trying to set up a
> sort-of one-stop-shop 'matchmaking' scheme between scientists, and science
> policy and science communication people, to feed in at the grant proposal
> writing stages. E.g. scientist had a project idea, goes to website, uploads
> short list of their envisaged impact areas (perhaps these could be broadly
> pre-defined...?); sci policy/sci comm peeps interested in to areas get email
> notification, and if they want they can contact scientists with expression
> of interest of being involved in helping develop PtI on a way that achieves
> ends. As there is grant budget available, this wouldn't need to be
> completely altruistic on part of the second person!
>
> This is just a vague idea in my head, so I wanted to test out people
> reactions. It just seems silly to me that this RC money isn't used
> effectively, especially as funding becomes more scarce...
>
> I'd love to hear your thoughts
>
> Thanks
>
> Tori
> ---
> Dr. Victoria Herridge
> Department of Palaeontology
> Natural History Museum
> London
> SW7 5BD
>
> tel. +44 (0)20 7942 5477
>
> [log in to unmask]
> [log in to unmask]
>
> skype: victoriaherridge
>
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>
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>
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Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 16:13:51 +0100
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Subject: Re: Women's Institute audiences
I would second this. My mother used to run the science committee for her county's federation of WIs and they were always looking for speakers as there was a ready, interested audience.
On 7 Oct 2011, at 15:08, jenny koenig <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> If any scientists are looking for an audience for a talk or demonstration I can thoroughly recommend getting in touch with your local Women’s Institute. I have done a number of talks for local WI groups in the last few years and they are very appreciative and interested and keen to get scientists to speak.
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> Go to their website and get the contact details for your local federation who draw up a speakers list each year. I found that I was initially asked to pay to be included on their speakers list but once I explained that I was talking on behalf of a charity (at the time I was funded by a medical research charity) they waived the fee. (I think sometimes they get people to speak who then want to sell them things and then they ask the speaker to pay).
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Dear all,
Bristol Natural History Consortium has been awarded a four year grant (2010-2014) from Heritage Lottery Fund to deliver short placements training new media skills in a heritage context.
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Subject: Registration open-Visualising Science and Environment Symposium
Registration is now open for the ‘Visualising Science and Environment
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organised by the Science and Environment Communication Section, ECREA,
in association with Media Research Group, Faculty of Arts, University of
Brighton, UK
Venue: Faculty of Arts, University of Brighton, 17-18 November 2011
Registration and details at:
http://arts.brighton.ac.uk/study/media-studies/news/visualising-science-and-
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PROGRAMME
Thursday 17 November 2011
9.30 Registration and Refreshments
10.00 Welcome address
Keynote - 'Imag(in)ing climate change: Exploring (creative) collaborations'
Julie Doyle, University of Brighton, UK
11.00 Panel 1 – Visualising science: discourses of conflict and
resolution
'Imagining “a greener, cleaner future” or a return to “the world of
Quatermass”?
The role of the visual in biomass power struggles'
Lucy Brown, University of Strathclyde, UK
'Geoengineering: Verbal and visual images of promotion and protest'
Brigitte Nerlich, University of Nottingham, UK
'The use of visual and social media in conflicting land management
processes'
Georgina Maffey, Mark Reed and Sera Irvine, University of Aberdeen, UK
'Imagined nanotechnological futures as esoteric and exoteric discourses:
Nanomission™’s mission'
Mark Erickson, University of Brighton, UK
12.30 Lunch
1.30 Panel 2 - Conversations/collaborations between art and science
'Between method and ornament: scientific visualisations in contemporary art'
Tomáš Dvo?ák, Academy of Sciences of the Czech Republic, Czech Republic
'Small worlds'
Elaine Duigenan, London, UK
'MS: The big knit'
Hannah Hope, British Society for Immunology, Helen Featherstone,
University of the West of England, and Alison Thomson, Artist in
Residence, Barts and the London NHS Trust, UK'
'From science to art'
Jon Heras, Equinox Graphics Ltd, UK
3.00 Refreshments
3.15 Panel 3 – Gendered politics of science and environment
'“Twinkle, twinkle, eco-star”: Green celebrity culture in contemporary
China'
Xinghua Li, Babson College, USA
'Ken dumps Barbie: The politics of communication in Greenpeace vs Mattel
2011' -
Jenny Alexander, Bournemouth University, UK
'Hubble’s mother: A star is born'
Emma Bell, University of Brighton, UK
4.45 Panel 4 - Visual literacies of ecology and sustainability
'Design for a changing climate: Embedding scientific discourse in
the process of architectural design'
Kirsty Sutherland, University of Brighton, UK
'The graphic design of science and environment communication:
The “Indústria e Ambiente” contribution'
Jorge M L Brandão Pereira and Carla Santos Silva,
Polytechnic Institute of Cávado and Ave (IPCA), Portugal
'The visual communication of ecological literacy'
Jody Boehnert, University of Brighton, UK
'Visual cultures of ecological research’
Astrid Schwarz and Angela Krewani, University of Technology Darmstadt,
Germany, University of Marburg, Germany
6.15 Drinks reception and book launch – sponsored by Faculty of Arts,
University of Brighton
and IECA (International Environmental Communication Association).
Book Launch – Julie Doyle, Mediating Climate Change (Ashgate 2011)
and Claire Molloy, Popular Media and Animals (Palgrave Macmillan 2011)
8.00 Optional Dinner
Friday 18 November 2011
9.30 Panel 5 - Visualising climate change
'Image matters: Climate change imagery in the US, UK
and Australian Mass Media'
Saffron O’Neill, University of Melbourne, Australia (via skype)
'Picturing resilience: Analysis of newspaper images of Brisbane floods 2011'
Anne Leitch and Erin Bohensky, Commonwealth Scientific and Industrial
Research Organisation (CSIRO), Australia
'Climate change associations: Mental imagery, iconic representations, and
emotions'
Zoe Leviston and Jennifer Price, Commonwealth Scientific and Industrial
Research Organisation (CSIRO), Australia
'Potentials and challenges of visualisation-supported communication on
climate change’
Victoria Wibeck and Tina Neset, Linköping University, Sweden
‘Which images matter? Exploring Indonesian decision-makers’ perceptions of
future change'
Erin Bohensky, Commonwealth Scientific and Industrial Research Organisation
(CSIRO),
Australia
11.00 Refreshments
11.15 Panel 6 - Practicing Science, Environment and Art
'Teaching art and science together'
Lisa Austin, Maine, USA
'Singing Sand'
Joe Duffy, Manchester Metropolitan University, UK
'The artistic appropriation of scientific methods of visualisation and
nature'
Hugo Fortes, University of São Paulo, Brazil
'Integrating Science and Art to promote environmental support'
Darlene Farris-Labar, East Stroudsburg University, USA
12.45 Lunch
1.30 Panel 7 - Imaging animals, environment and science
'Avatar, animals and ecology: Visualising the tensions'
Claire Molloy, University of Brighton, UK
'Whale wars: Image event, reality television or visual surveillance'
Anita Howarth, Kingston University, UK
'Visualising the unseeable: Bubble chamber photographs and visual
construction in particle physics'
Mircea Sava, University of Bucharest, Romania, POSDRU 107/1.5/S/80765
'Visualising and communicating global atmospheric phenomena:
A visual history of the Antarctic ozone hole'
Sebastian Grevsmühl, Centre Alexandre Koyré, France
3.00 Refreshments
3.15 Panel 9 - Mass mediation of science and environment
'Broadcasting climate change: State vs. media'
Marianna Poberezhskaya, University of Nottingham, UK
'Climate change in our Backyard'
Amanda Katili Niode, Indonesia
'Visualising science in German television broadcasts’
Anna –Maria Volpers, University of Münster, Germany
Looking somewhat sciencey: Science’s trust function in commercial
advertising'
Alice Ruddigkeit and Matthias Kohring, University of Mannheim, Germany
4.45 Roundtable discussion and closing remarks
5.15 Finish
Science and Environment Communication Section http://www.scienv-com.eu/,
ECREA, in association with Media Research Group
http://arts.brighton.ac.uk/study/media-studies/research, Faculty of Arts,
University of Brighton, UK.
Kindly supported by IECA (International Environmental Communication
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http://environmentalcomm.org/
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