Now to put my two cents in.
I think the debate around PWD or DP is a red herring.
I think its much more important to be clear on the meaning of the term disability
If it used with the meaning of discrimination it would be a discriminated person or a person who is discriminated against.
Both should be equally ok
If we use it with the meaning of defective
Person with a defect (impaired) or defective (impared) person in my eyes are equally bad especially if the person does not accept the label defect for their body
If it means person that is differently able or differently able person again both should be ok
By getting sidetracked as to whether person first or not we give away the really battle of self-determination of ones self perception of ones body which should be the real battle ground
And in the end by using the term disability for body and social treatment discourses we are so unclear that we can not convey to the public the real issues.
Cheers
Gregor
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Subject: Re: First use of People with Disabilities.
Hi Bob and Frank,
If I may come into this discussion.
There is a third group of fellows and advocates wh declare that the
usage of terms: disabled or persons with disabilities doesn't really
matter. They accept that both terms are acceptable envoking one old
saying, "A rose is still a rose whatever name one gives it."
Of course, I don't go along with that third idea. I appreciate that
this is being discussed here not only for academic purposes but so as
we can communicate appropriately and and present the sector and its
issues effectively leading to our goal of inclusion and equality.
Regards,
Lauro
Original message:
> I know that Paul Hunt, a founder of UPIAS in the UK, used the term in
> a publication in the 1970s - (many activists are in denial over this!)
> LOL
> I understand Frank that you are enquiry only as to the 'first usage'
> of the term, however, this actually distorts the issue. I would argue
> PWD is a term that has historically many differing meanings because
> the lexicon of "disability" has two distinct roots: medical and legal.
> Medical root, as we know, sees "disability" as impairment/functional
> loss however the legal root sees "disability" as disenfranchisement
> -Vic Finkenstein, for example, cites the Indian Constitution's use of
> "disabled".
> However, in John Stuart Mills in his essay, "The Subjugation of Women"
> spoke of "women with disabilities" because their 'disabilies' were the
> denial of property and voting rights.
> The term PWD has different political and cultural meanings within
> countries and across the globe which only adds to the 'interpretative
> confusion' within disability studies' discourses.
> Bob Williams-Findlay
> On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 11:14 PM, Frank Hall-Bentick
> <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> I'm interested in when the phrase 'People with Disability' was first used so
>> I'm hoping some of you academic types can put on your research hats and see
>> what you can find.
>> Using the old academic principle of history 'if it's not in print then it
>> didn't happen'.
>> I can remember using both people with disabilities and disabled people when
>> I working at Disability Resources Centre here in Melbourne in 1984 but
>> couldn't find anything in print.
>> However I've come across a copy of Our Voice printed by DPI Australia in
>> June 1985 using the phrase 'People with Disabilities' and has a speech from
>> Graeme Innes to the ACROD AGM (RI Australia) in October 1984 in which he
>> uses 'People with Disabilities'
>> See http://db.tt/WnwD95vG
>> This may not be the earliest use as the Australian disability movement at
>> this time was inspired by great advocates like Ed Roberts Berkley USA and
>> Henry Enns Winnipeg Canada (DPI).
>> Anyway see what you can find.
>> Regards,
>> Frank Hall-Bentick
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