I've had a number of concerned colleagues email me about this and like the others who've commented I am really shocked and saddened. I think there have always been huge gender issues with RAE/REF but it seems to be getting worse. Apparently (and i only have this second hand) alternatives were suggested by arts and humanities panels, but were vetoed by the scientists on the grounds that they favoured women!!!!!
Is it worth responding to the consultation - either as an individual or a group? They're taking comments until 5/10/11 http://www.hefce.ac.uk/research/ref/pubs/2011/03_11/consult/
The Women's Network here at King's is having a session on Gender and the REF on 10th November to raise awareness of the issues and what can be done about them. Are there similar events elsewhere? Perhaps we could bring them together in some way for a concerted response.
Best,
Kate
Dr Kate Maclean
Lecturer in Human Geography
King's College London
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I agree with Suzy and sympathise with Clara. I was amazed. Janet
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>every birth and every death should count as at least the equivalent of one
>international journal article, if not a whole series!
>
>clara
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>[[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Avril Maddrell
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>Sent: 14 September 2011 11:54
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>Dear Suzy,
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>Many thanks for flagging this. WGSG will follow this up, but if it is as it appears,
>it will need concerted and co-ordinated responses from across the sector:
>departments/ universities, unions, learned societies etc..
>
>Watch this space.
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>Best wishes,
>Avril
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>Sent: 14 September 2011 11:22
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>(Just to preface this with apologies for being a lapsed WGSG member--will
>sort this out in a minute, but as I'm still subscribed to the mailing list...)
>
>Has anyone else encountered the news publicised yesterday by UCU (see
>http://www.ucu.org.uk/index.cfm?articleid=5716&from=5710)? Apparently
>HEFCE has draft proposals for new REF guidelines on maternity and adoption
>leave which will penalise new mothers. I'm saddened, shocked and angered
>in fairly equal measure.
>
>Suzy
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>Dr. Suzanne Reimer
>Geography and Environment
>University of Southampton
>Highfield, Southampton
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