Hi,
I have attached a policy statement from RNIB Access Consultancy services
in relation to the discussion on the use of tactile indicators on
handrails.
I would be happy to discuss further, if required.
Regards
Sharon
Sharon Almond
Principal Access Consultant
NRAC Consultant
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From: Accessibuilt list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf
Of Ian Waterman
Sent: 25 August 2011 16:53
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Subject: Re: Tactile indicators on handrails
Hi,
Tactile indicators on handrails are a good idea, they always have
been.....
We spoke to RNIB about it years ago, pre DDA, but it was never taken up
with any enthusiasm.....
Essentially, although a practicable idea it is not really effective
until research has been undertaken, precise criteria have been
developed, and the concept universally accepted and included within the
relevant literature.....
Does anyone know what RNIB think of the idea these days.....
Ian
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Of Brian Towers
Sent: 25 August 2011 16:20
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Subject: Re: Tactile indicators on handrails
Another problem with handrails that do not project at the top and
bottom, that cannot be resolved by dots - how do people manage who need
support before getting on or off the stair?
I think architects need severe guidance on this.
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Sent: 25 August 2011 16:07
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Subject: Re: Tactile indicators on handrails
Hi Brian and Mark,
Quite agree, this hasn't been suggested as a universal intervention and
I wouldn't support this unless there was some research based evidence.
However, I have used this concept of fitting the studs where the
required 300mm extension to handrails on steps/stairs, for whatever
reason, has not been achievable. In consultation with our local Kent
Association for the Blind we felt that this was a reasonable way of
achieving the outcome supported by an access statement for Building
Control and in each case was accepted. I have also seen studs provided
in addition to the 300mm extension to good effect especially where
handrails are designed in accordance with Regs so that studs can be
easily located. It would be good to get some other views about whether
it is acceptable/useful or not? Cliff's diagram is a useful guide to
positioning.
Sue
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Sent: 25 August 2011 15:36
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Subject: Re: Tactile indicators on handrails
Brian is right; the concept of using the hand rail dots or bars counting
down 3-2-1 has been around for a number of years. However unless it is
adopted throughout the UK and training/information on their use is
readily available it will always be something that could be in place
within a building but users do not know what they mean, how to use them
or that they are even there.
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Sent: 25 August 2011 15:33
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Subject: Re: Tactile indicators on handrails
The problem I see with the idea is - it would need to be used
everywhere.
Brian Towers
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Subject: Re: Tactile indicators on handrails
Hello All
I have attached a copy of a sketch that I drew in the mid 1990`s
following dictation of requirements by a Blind member of our Access
Group.
In addition to the idea being used on steps he asked for it to be
applied to corridor handrails on the approach to doorways of a
Daycentre, on which we were advising an architect.
The Gentleman concerned has since died and the Group been wound up.
I do not re-call seeing any publicised info on handrail marker designs,
in my 25 years with Access work.
Cliff Croft
Neath Port Talbot Disability Network Action Group
On 19/08/2011 2:38 PM, Sue Pellegrino wrote:
Hi,
This has been interesting as I cannot find exact reference to tactile
studs on handrails in any of the usual BS or Building Regs docs. There
is some old Supplementary Planning Guidance back in 2001 which suggests:
Ramps & raised footpaths
Where a ramp is proposed:-
* rails should be extended past the top and bottom of stairs and ramps.
* studs should be inserted in handrails to indicate the top and bottom
of stairs and ramps
Anecdotaly there is reference to tactile studs providing a reasonable
means of indicating to blind and partially sighted people that the end
of the flight has been reached. Especially where it is impossible to
provide the 300mm additional length of handrail beyond the first and
last treads. I have certainly used this mechanism on projects which have
been accepted by Building Control officers.
http://bit.ly/o4CWA9 Laidlaw provide examples.
Maybe someone else can come up with a better reference?
Sue
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Subject: Tactile indicators on handrails
Would someone please point me to the guidance reference on use of
tactile indicators on handrails.
Regards,
Dorothy
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