Hi Mogg,
But why should there be dual rulership rather than single? I mean if it's
not going to be single, then why couldn't it be more than dual? Multiple?
Regional? Probably was in the Pre-Dynastic period. And I'm unclear about
your use of 'colonial' in the previous email. Do you mean one _region_ of
Egypt taking over another? Also, while there are myths of kingship, there
are also king lists of real kings which might look completely different to
any myths. (I'd have to go spend time looking that up, so I don't know. But
what I'm saying is that material world kingship may have/probably did look
different to mythological 'suggestions' of kingship.)
~Caroline.
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PS: suppose should also say that the
sun king Ra suggests that the two _brothers_, Horus & Seth should share
the kingdom, Horus still getting the best deal,
you'd think this would be a reasonable solution, the idea of dual
rulership being another possibility from prehistory -
it is in a sense the ancient "status quo" - with the two tribal groups
ruling their own - which seems reasonable enough -
but this is rejected (in one myth cycle) in favour of a strong, absolute
ruler (Horus) -
which looks a bit like the moment culture moved decisively away from a
more pluralist societal model, perhaps also matrilineal/binomial
in favour of the kingship model we all know and "love"?
Mogg
> On 22/08/2011 10:07, Caroline Tully wrote:
>
> Cheers Caroline
>
> Interesting stuff there -
> I'm not to sure about Seth as "symbol of improper kingship" -
> wondered if that's some sort of ancient "colonial" narrative -
> afterall Horus is "illegitimate", conceived, according to the myth,
> post mortem -
> its funny how when we read this myth we also accept the "colonial"
> reasoning -
> In the mythology Seth does question Horus's legitimacy and indeed
> fitness to rule, given his weakness?
> European Kingship, often also illegitimate, has similar narratives, ie
> tracing lineage back to some supernatural parentage,
> ie Jesus for french monarchy, Melusine etc.?
>
>
> It's not to say the whole predynastic/preformal is
> matrilineal/matriachal there were, as you know, lots of different groups,
> and therefore lots of different ways they may have organised their
> extended family/tribal groups.
> It's also the case that "male strength" was only one of skills needed
> for survival - just as important in that environment would be
> knowledge of the seasons, business/trade cycles etc and the annual
> rains (in the desert areas).
>
> E J Baumgartle was Margaret Murray's successor at UCL/Petrie and
> she raised these kinds of possibilities based on analysis of the
> archaeology
> of predynastic sites
>
> bb/senebty
>
> Mogg Morgan
>
>
>
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