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Re: [ecoinfo] Citation norms for datasets

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This depends on the size / number of datasets. In geology your PhD might consist of a single dataset or using part of a large dataset (e.g. Mid atlantic ridge mapping from a cruise ship) and employers would be very interested in the dataset itself and the fact that a candidate can assert that they were skilled enough to be involved in the collection of that dataset. Conversely in my field a PhD student would collect a few hundred datasets, only a subset of which would be included in any publication(s) - as an interviewee / interviewer it would be potentially worthwhile to assert that the candidate did in fact amass this experience.



A published article does not convey exactly what contribution an author made to a piece of work – they might never have left the office for the lab, field, etc. I would argue that if you are looking to employ a technical person they are often not even on the paper but they are invariably the people that make the data collection happen! I concede that this would probably require a complete change in the way people approach writing / assessing CV's, but I argue that this could be a good thing! Datasets and indeed all sorts of other research outputs (that are not journal articles) are all indications of your ability to conduct research and would be worth collecting into some sort of 'portfolio'…



Simon.



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From: Daureen Nesdill <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>>

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Subject: Re: [ecoinfo] Citation norms for datasets



Maybe we should ask the question, “What is the purpose of citing datasets on CVs?” Employers are probably more interested in the finished product – the published research article (or something in an IR) which should have the datasets cited.  On the other hand adding it to the CV may show that the student is aware of changes in research practices.



Daureen



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Hi folks,



I'm posting this question by Kyle Kwaiser that he put on the Ecoinformaticslist, since I'm curious what information you might be able to add. The mostin-depth response is further below.



Please respond to the list.



Thanks,

Brian



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Hello Colleagues,



I am working with graduate students this summer to archive their work at our field station.  I want to tell them to cite their datasets on their CV's but I know this is not yet the norm.



Any general thoughts on how close we are to including datasets on CV's?  Can you suggest recent papers that argue (decisively) for this practice?  Here are two relevant but slightly tangential examples:



Reichman, O. J., M. B. Jones, and M. P. Schildhauer. 2011. “Challenges and Opportunities of Open Data in Ecology.” Science 331 (6018) (February): 703-705. doi:10.1126/science.1197962.



Vision, Todd J. 2010. “Open Data and the Social Contract of Scientific Publishing.” BioScience 60 (5) (May): 330-331. doi:10.1525/bio.2010.60.5.2.



Best,



Kyle

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This response from Carl Boettiger provides the most material:

Kyle,



Are your students archiving these in repositories that will issue a doi for the citation information?  (Merritt, Dryad if they correspond to already published work, etc)?



Here's a few more refs that have argued for this, some quite extensively.



This whole piece is essentially an argument for data citation:

Mons, B., Haagen, H. van, Chichester, C., Hoen, P.-B. ’T, Dunnen, J. T. den, Ommen, G. van, et al. (2011). The value of data. Nature genetics, 43(4), 281-3. Nature Publishing Group. doi: 10.1038/ng0411-281.



Birney, E., Hudson, T. J., Green, E. D., Gunter, C., Eddy, S., Rogers, J., et al. (2009). Prepublication data sharing. Nature, 461(7261), 168-70. doi: 10.1038/461168a.

"another would be to track the usage and citation of data sets using electronic systems similar to those used for traditional publications" who cite this in support:

Sharing Data from Large-scale Biological Research Projects: A System of Tripartite Responsibility (Wellcome Trust, 2003); available at www.wellcome.ac.uk/stellent/groups/<http://www.wellcome.ac.uk/stellent/groups/> corporatesite/@policy_

communications/documents/ web_document/wtd003207.pdf



Tenopir, C., Allard, S., Douglass, K., Aydinoglu, A. U., Wu, L., Read, E., et al. (2011). Data Sharing by Scientists: Practices and Perceptions. (C. Neylon, Ed.)PLoS ONE, 6(6), e21101. doi: 10.1371/journal.pone.0021101.

     "Providing a secure but flexible cyberinfrastructure while promulgating best practices such as data citation and metadata reuse, will help build confidence in data sharing"



Rod discusses data  citation quite a bit here:

Page, R. D. M. (2010). Enhanced display of scientific articles using extended metadata. Web Semantics: Science, Services and Agents on the World Wide Web, 8(2-3), 190-195. doi: 10.1016/j.websem.2010.03.004.



Constable, H., Guralnick, R., Wieczorek, J., Spencer, C., & Peterson, a T. (2010). VertNet: a new model for biodiversity data sharing. PLoS biology, 8(2), e1000309. doi: 10.1371/journal.pbio.1000309.

"By ensuring that data remain curated at the source, and by showing the importance of data sharing to promote data citation and usage, we have grown past our original technology implementation and are ready to move into a long-term production environment that departs from the original model."





These three make mention of data citation, mostly in reference to increasedcitation rates of papers.

Moore, A. J., McPeek, M. a, Rausher, M. D., Rieseberg, L., & Whitlock, M. C. (2010). The need for archiving data in evolutionary biology. Journal of evolutionary biology, 23(4), 659-60. doi: 10.1111/j.1420-9101.2010.01937.x.



Whitlock, M. C., McPeek, M. a, Rausher, M. D., Rieseberg, L., & Moore, A. J. (2010). Data archiving. The American naturalist, 175(2), 145-6. doi: 10.1086/650340.



Whitlock, M. C. (2010). Data archiving in ecology and evolution: best practices. Trends in Ecology & Evolution, 1-5. Elsevier Ltd. doi: 10.1016/j.tree.2010.11.006.



Mark Parson's talk: http://ands.org.au/guides/data-citation-awareness.html



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