Thanks, Dot. This might be an interesting idea to play with some time.
I've considering doing something similar using the iLab here at KCL some
time, but haven't had time to set it up.
My reaction to the idea of instructional videos was the same as your,
initially: that the vast majority of productive time at EpiDoc workshops
involves face-time and individual help, rather than standing at the
front of the room lecturing. On the other hand, though, if someone could
set up recording equipment at an EpiDoc workshop, I personally would be
more than happy for videos of the main presentations to be made available.
One weakness of the e-workshop idea (just to complete the circle) is
that once you factor in the real costs of running such a session, as we
inevitably have to these days, that includes the instructors' paid time,
and in that case the cost of travel and accommodation--even going
halfway around the world, is a small part of the overall cost of the
event. However good the technology, I don't think it will ever be quite
as good as face-to-face, so even if it's, say, 25% cheaper, is that a
real economy?
Having said all that--a resounding yes to let's try all of these ideas.
I'll ask around for video equipment in advance of the September workshop.
Thanks,
G
On 2011-07-18 14:02, Dot Porter wrote:
> I'm not sure instructive videos would work. In my experience TEI
> workshops are most successful when there is a lot of time for
> questions and answers, substantial interaction between learners and
> teaches. I haven't attended an EpiDoc workshop but (given it's a
> subset of TEI) I expect it's the same. Virtual workshops might work,
> though, if you could deal with potentially having people located in
> several different time zones. Indiana University Libraries uses Adobe
> Connect for virtual meetings and lectures, it has the ability for
> sharing screens and type-chat and voice-chat. If it could be used for
> virtual EpiDoc workshops I would be more than happy to act as host
> ("host" meaning that I set up the system - instructors and students
> could log in from anywhere).
>
> Dot
>
> On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 10:52 AM, Schwendner, Gregg
> <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> Wouldn't a series of instructive videos be in order, on demand from a website e.g.?
>> I guess it's to be expected that academic prestige and air-miles go hand in hand, esp. here in (academically) class conscious America, but information and skills training need not.
>>
>> Thanks so much to Scott, Notis, James, Tom, and Gabriel for their messages.
>>
>> Gregg Schwendner
>>
>>
>> On Jul 17, 2011, at 6:03 AM, Gabriel Bodard wrote:
>>
>>> There is a further question that arises from Gregg's original message,
>>> which is the availability of EpiDoc training in the US (or better
>>> decentralized training materials in some form). This is probably
>>> something that needs discussing on the Markup list, but folks here on
>>> Digiclass may have thoughts about how to keep up momentum in a
>>> distributed project at times when there is no specific resource
>>> dedicated to public engagement(*)...?
>>>
>>> (*) For context: for several years, EpiDoc training sessions were
>>> provided both in the UK and worldwide by virtue of dissemination funds
>>> as part of the AHRC-funded Inscriptions of Aphrodisias project. In the
>>> aftermath of this project, we're no longer in the position to donate
>>> several person-days worth of paid time, travel and accommodation
>>> costs, etc., and travel around the world several times a year. I would
>>> urge anyone who is in the process of applying for funds to run an
>>> EpiDoc-related project to think very carefully (and consult the Markup
>>> list) about including the true cost of bringing qualified trainers in
>>> to run such a workshop as part of your project.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Gabriel
>>>
>>> On 17 July 2011 10:54, Tom Elliott<[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>> On 7/17/11 4:09 PM, James Cummings wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I would, of course, second this recommendation. This uses the standard
>>>>> TEI-C stylesheets to move between formats (e.g.docx to tei). I thought
>>>>> that EpiDoc was moving to being a pure TEI P5 subset rather than an
>>>>> extension. If that isn't the case, if the EpiDoc community produces both
>>>>> a pure TEI P5 to EpiDoc and an EpiDoc to pure TEI P5 XSLT
>>>>> transformation, we could include it in the OxGarage set of
>>>>> transformations so you could go direct from docx (or format of choice)
>>>>> to EpiDoc.
>>>>
>>>> James, just to clarify: EpiDoc is now a fully conformant P5 customization.
>>>> We're not doing anything above-and-beyond.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Tom Elliott, Ph.D.
>>>> Associate Director for Digital Programs
>>>> Senior Research Scholar
>>>> Institute for the Study of the Ancient World
>>>> New York University
>>>> http://isaw.nyu.edu/people/staff/tom-elliott/
>>>>
>>>> want to meet?: http://tungle.me/paregorios/
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Dr Gabriel BODARD
>>> (Research Associate in Digital Epigraphy)
>>>
>>> Centre for Computing in the Humanities
>>> King's College London
>>> 26-29 Drury Lane
>>> London WC2B 5RL
>>>
>>> Email: [log in to unmask]
>>> Tel: +44 (0)20 7848 1388
>>> Fax: +44 (0)20 7848 2980
>>>
>>> http://www.digitalclassicist.org/
>>> http://www.currentepigraphy.org/
>>
>
>
>
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Dr Gabriel BODARD
(Research Associate in Digital Epigraphy)
Department of Digital Humanities
King's College London
26-29 Drury Lane
London WC2B 5RL
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