Thanks all, have learnt lots from http://diveintohtml5.org/video.html. 'Tis complicated no? *goes back to Twitter*


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From: Open Educational Resources [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Scott Wilson
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On 24 Jun 2011, at 12:36, Phil Barker wrote:

> Here's an overview of HTML5 and video containers and codecs: http://diveintohtml5.org/video.html
>
> It's a rapidly moving field so some of that will be out of date (in particular WebM seems to have overtaken OGG Theora as the "openest" alternative to H264)
>
> See also http://www.youtube.com/html5
>
> One rider to Peter's comment: HTML5 will support a number of formats; browsers might not, at least not natively (i.e. you would need a plug-in).

If you include both a webm (or ogg theora) and an mp4/H264 version using the <video> <source> tag that means you've got all modern browsers covered.

>
> Phil
>
>
> On 24/06/2011 12:12, Peter Robinson wrote:
>> Dear Nick,
>>
>> Quite a few interlinked questions in the email
>>
>> We use at Oxford MPEG-4 H264 codec 700 kbs for our core "output'
>> activities.
>>
>> So I'd recommend trying to convert into an MPEG-4 H264 codec as well
>> as a version at a mobile data rate.
>>
>> Try to get higher data rate original versions that can then be batch
>> converted into lower data rates or different codecs. We also save our
>> master digital material too.
>>
>> .3gp is I probably ok for mobile - but the resolution is obviously
>> uber low ..
>>
>> FLV for video really isn't a sensible option for the future for many,
>> many reasons
>>
>> HTML5  will support a number of formats natively in the browser and
>> hence remove the need for the player eventually
>>
>> On 24 Jun 2011, at 11:45, Sheppard, Nick wrote:
>>
>>> Cheers Phil
>>>
>>> Might try to do that - never been to the Repository Fringe (or the
>>> other Fringe).
>>>
>>> On a semi-related note I wonder if I could pick the list's
>>> collective brains around issues of mobile delivery of OER
>>> (video)...With our ACErep project - http://acerep.wordpress.com/ -
>>> I've rather inherited the task of mobile provision to ALPS CETL - http://www.alps-cetl.ac.uk/index.html
>>>  -  resources which include a number of video files in .flv and .3gp
>>> - ostensibly for mobile delivery...which I don't know a huge amount
>>> about - my handset is still primarily a phone* - though I do have an
>>> iPod touch which won't play either .flv or .3gp (or .mp4) from the
>>> several repositories I tried (our own intraLibrary, Jorum [DSpace]
>>> or EPrints).
>>>
>>> I know that Apple devices aren't compatible with Flash which I
>>> understand is why they require a dedicated player for YouTube (?)
>>> and it might be that the best solution currently is just to host
>>> video content on there (now supports CC-BY of course!) and point to
>>> it from a repository...then there are Android devices which I
>>> haven't even looked at yet...
>>>
>>> Naturally, however, I'm interested in preservation and mobile
>>> provision of video (as well as other types of oer content) from
>>> repositories (and their associated workflows)...am I likely to find
>>> that the mobile video landscape is just too variable for this to be
>>> easily achieved or are there quick fixes that could be implemented
>>> by repository software vendors - is the advent of HTML5 likely to be
>>> relevant in this area?
>>>
>>> Nick
>>>
>>> * For my next upgrade plan on getting one of them Androids
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Open Educational Resources [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>>> On Behalf Of Phil Barker
>>> Sent: 23 June 2011 12:15
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>>> Subject: CETIS at Repository Fringe [ was Re: SWORD 1.3 Publication
>>> Date
>>>
>>> On 22/06/2011 14:17, Sheppard, Nick wrote:
>>>
>>> N.B. Pointing at my UKCoRR post instead of www.swordapp.org not
>>> (only) for self aggrandisement but rather because UKCoRR and OER
>>> still feel a little like separate camps and think more cross-
>>> dissemination might be useful (should we lose the 1st "R" and become
>>> just UKCoR?!)
>>>
>>> If it's linking between Repository and OER worlds that you're after,
>>> then try to make it to Edinburgh for the Repository Fringe, at least
>>> for the last day (5 Aug) when we are lining up an all-star cast to
>>> discuss "Advances in Open Systems for Learning Resources"
>>> See: http://wiki.cetis.ac.uk/Advances_in_Open_Systems_for_Learning_Resources
>>> and: http://repofringe2011.eventbrite.com/
>>>
>>> Phil.
>>>
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