well anne i think the RCN must have been walking about with their
eyes shut on that one when it comes to OH and what you deliver
i will say no more
steph
On 9 Jun 2011, at 18:10, [log in to unmask] wrote:
> I have heard good things about it. Interestingly, I tried to get a
> whole
> unit on mental health on our course a few years ago whilst at the RCN.
> Unfortunately, we were not allowed to proceed - the reason - I
> don't hold
> and RMN qualification! No comment, on that but what I will say is
> it is so
> difficult to get what we need in for NMC validation that mental
> health gets
> only a brief mention.
>
> Anne
>
>
> On 09/06/2011 17:42, "Susan Gorton" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> For anyone who can get day release near London I can very highly
>> recommend the
>> MSc in Organisational Psychiatry and Psychology at Kings. I have just
>> completed (exams in 2 weeks OMG) year one and it has been absolutely
>> brilliant. I apply what I learn every time I get back to wrok -
>> how is the
>> paranoid Personality Disorder getting on today!!
>>
>> Its likley to have a name change to Mental Health at work and the
>> key degree
>> to qualify to get on the course is RGN not OH. I dont have a
>> degree to may
>> name having predated everyhting -even my Oh is only a C
>> (ertificate) poor thing
>>
>> Mental health at work gets very little mention in any OH course
>> and yet it is
>> 40% of most referrals. I have learnt about all the key psychiatric
>> conditions
>> and how to assess for them, what treatments they should be having
>> etc had
>> lessons on everyhting from personality to motivation and Stress at
>> work enough
>> to equip me to set up my own consultancy. The calibre of lecturers
>> is first
>> class - everyone from Adrian Furnham who writes most of the books
>> on Occ
>> Psychology, Rob Briner and the guy who bought EAPs to the Uk
>> amongst many many
>> others.
>>
>> I was shocked to be the only OHA on the course as this course is
>> just ideal
>> for us really. If in doubt go talk to Gilly Wiscarson, the course
>> director,
>> she is more than happy to give you the low down.
>>
>> I am doing my research on the impact of training for managers in
>> an NHS Trust
>> on common mental health problems so watch this space!!
>>
>> Sue
>>
>> Susan Gorton Occupational Health Department Manager
>> Occupational Health
>> Department, Level 3 Ormond House, 26-27 Boswell Street, London
>> WC1N 3JZ
>> Mob: 07833294568 Tel: 020 7813 8554 Ext 0247 Fax : 020 7813
>> 8355
>> Email: [log in to unmask] From Sept 2010 I am on study leave
>> on Tuesdays
>> throughout the academic year
>>
>>>>> "Argyle, Ruth (Occupational Health Nurse)"
>>>>> <[log in to unmask]> 08/06/2011 08:39 >>>
>> Mmm that sounds wise
>> Ruth
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: [log in to unmask] [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>> On Behalf
>> Of JANE COOMBS
>> Sent: 08 June 2011 08:14
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: [OCC-HEALTH] degree
>>
>> Dear Lynda
>>
>> Why don't you do a masters instead? You probably know all the
>> stuff about OH
>> at an excellent level and to do another two years seems like you
>> are chasing
>> academic moving goalposts (sorry Anne but it is a bit of a mystery
>> to me how
>> everything changes every 5 years or so and we find ourselves
>> stranded with
>> obsolete qualifications).
>>
>> Or why not go for a safety degree or ergonomics or HR - they would
>> all greatly
>> add to your knowledge and would bring such benefits to your OH
>> practice.
>>
>> Jane
>> ________________________________
>> Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 18:49:49 +0100
>> From: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: [OCC-HEALTH] degree
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> So does this mean that you would
>> Only have to do 1 year I also have done dip at Warwick
>> Thanks
>> Lynda
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On 6 Jun 2011, at 23:16,
>> "[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>"
>> <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
>> Hello Anne
>>
>> It is difficult to comment about courses other than my own as I
>> don't know
>> their specific rules. However, the general principles will be the
>> same. Think
>> of academic courses a bit like going up an escalator in a three story
>> building. Level 1,(also known as level 4) is the first floor and the
>> equivalent of the first year of a university degree. Level 2
>> (also known as
>> 5) is the second floor - second year of a degree. The third year
>> is level 3
>> (also known as 6).
>>
>> The diplomas of Warwick and Uni Glam are both excellent courses
>> but they are
>> delivered at diploma level which is level 2(AKA level 5) the
>> academic level of
>> the second year of a degree programme. The academic level does not
>> relate to
>> how good courses are just what "floor" in the educational
>> escalator they are
>> taught at. So the short answer is that it is unlikely that you
>> will get
>> exemptions from a course delivered at level 3(6). However, entry
>> to level 3
>> courses usually requires previous study at level 2 so the diploma
>> would be
>> what would get you into the course; rather like A levels are the
>> entry point
>> to a degree studied straight from school at the age of 18. Don't be
>> disheartened as it does mean that you go straight to the third
>> year of a
>> degree programme. When I first started teaching at the RCN
>> academic credit
>> wasn't given for having an RGN so those people had to do all three
>> years of a
>> degree programme.
>>
>> Although we have had students from Lincolnshire registering on our
>> programme
>> (we have had students travel from Scotland, Ireland and Wales
>> before now) I
>> suspect that the nearest course to you for face to face teaching
>> would be
>> Leeds Met, give Becky a call. The alternative is D/L at either
>> University of
>> West of Scotland or Robert Gordon University. D/L doesn't suit
>> everyone - it
>> requires a high level of self discipline but it is great option
>> for those who
>> have that.
>>
>> Best
>>
>> Anne
>>
>>
>> On 06/06/2011 22:49, "Anne Newham"
>> <<http://
>> [log in to unmask]>[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
>> Hello Anne
>>
>> Could you just clarify for me if this applies if you also studied
>> at Warwick
>> Diploma for the Diploma in OH, as I am planning to further my studies
>> hopefully next year & will be devastated if nothing can be be
>> accredited.
>>
>> I am based in North Lincolnshire/South Humberside & would ideally
>> need to look
>> for something more local, so sadly London would be too far for me
>> to travel. I
>> have heard nothing but great things about your course &
>> remembering you
>> lecturing us at Warwick a few years ago.
>>
>> Kind Regards
>>
>> Anne Newham
>> OHA
>> Caritas Ltd
>>
>> From: <[log in to unmask]" target="_blank">http:[log in to unmask]>
>> [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 7:16 PM
>> To: <[log in to unmask]" target="_blank">http:[log in to unmask]>
>> [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>> Subject: Re: [OCC-HEALTH] degree
>>
>> Hello Georgina
>>
>> The diploma you have completed at Uni Glam is taught at second
>> year degree
>> level - level 2 - (known in some institutions as level5). All the
>> SCPHN
>> courses are currently taught at level 3 (AKA level 6) and
>> therefore it is
>> unlikely that you would be able to make an APL claim as the levels
>> are
>> different. However, on the plus side, you should find degree level
>> OHN study
>> easy and you will be at a distinct advantage. I have taught
>> several students
>> with the Warwick Diploma in OH and having completed that course
>> puts them at a
>> distinct advantage.
>>
>> Not sure where in the country you are based. We are based near
>> Waterloo and a
>> number of underground stations if you would be interested in
>> studying with us.
>> If so please contact me off list on this email address.
>>
>> Best
>>
>> Anne Harriss
>> Course Director
>> LONDON SOUTH BANK UNIVERSITY
>>
>>
>> On 06/06/2011 13:24, "Georgina Mastin"
>> <wlmailhtml:<http://
>> [log in to unmask]>georgina.mastin@VIRGINMEDI
>> A.COM<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I wonder if anyone could advise me the best route to take to
>> obtain a OH
>> degree. I have recently obtained my OH diploma at the university
>> of Glamorgan
>> and wonder if I can APL what I have already done and top up to go
>> on and get
>> a degree.
>>
>> I have found out that the Robert Gordon university do offer a
>> long distance
>> learning degree but I cannot APL any of my dip. Is this the case
>> for all
>> university's offering the OH degree course?
>>
>> Thanks in anticipation
>>
>> Georgie
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