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Re: MCG historical query - criticisms of Culture Online programme?

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Jon Pratty <[log in to unmask]>

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Museums Computer Group <[log in to unmask]>

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Mon, 27 Jun 2011 16:51:43 +0000

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Bridget
There were a number of other MLA sector Culture Online projects in addition to Every Object, including Icons and, of course, 24 Hour Museum's award-winning City Heritage Guides. CoL commissioned content for City Heritage Guides still lives on in the respective regional zones on Culture24.
 Icons of England, another MLA sector CoL site, was set up by CoL themselves, via Cogapp, then published under contract by C24. That site is still live too. 
Happy days (kind of) 
Jon 

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----- Original Message -----
From: Museums Computer Group <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Mon Jun 27 15:13:00 2011
Subject: Re: MCG historical query - criticisms of Culture Online programme?

Hello
Good question.
I think Janet is right that there were no official reports  
specifically criticising Culture Online as a funding model, and Wendy  
is right that the Demos report  
http://www.demos.co.uk/publications/loggingon which, though critical  
in some ways, is overtly positive in its stance and didn't fully  
penetrate the criticisms that were circulating unofficially.

I do recall reading a report or article that mentioned the short life  
of the V&As Every Object Tells a Story, funded by Culture Online but  
couldn't locate it. There may have been others. I may have written  
critically about it myself in a few reports (e.g.  
http://www.hlf.org.uk/aboutus/howwework/Documents/HLF_digital_review.pdf  
)
but can't remember.

I'm not sure what the wider cultural sector thought of Culture Online,  
but think that people/orgs involved in cultural programming (i.e. arts  
& digital media) were more in favour and benefited more, than the  
cultural collections/content/MLA sector. Because Culture Online was  
led by people from a broadcast programming background there was a  
drive to prove that culture online should be about creating cultural  
engagements appropriate to the web, experimentally, rather than  
replicating or digitising pre-existing culture. So, digitisation of  
content was not funded by it, and also only one MLA sector project was  
funded (Every Picture...). Because the commissioning process  
engendered competitive bids and wasn't prefaced by strategic  
negotiation with the MLA sector (and it predated the strong use of  
online communities like this for sector discussion) we didn't use it  
as an opportunity to advocate a sector response to their terms of  
reference. This was prior to the thinking that is more prevalent now,  
that digitised cultural content doesn't have to be locked into dull  
online catalogues, that it can be an endless resource for creativity  
and networked learning if we set it free.

In England, we now have a similar opportunity to Culture Online in the  
NESTA/ACE Digital Innovations fund for the 'arts and cultural sector'.  
Because ACE is now embracing MLA functions, this fund is a great  
chance for an exploration of how digital innovation funds can connect  
the programming of culture as suited to online and the creative  
possibilities of remaking cultural archives online, and draw them  
together into the best services for use & enjoyment.

Bridget


Quoting "Chan, Sebastian" <[log in to unmask]>:

> Hi all
>
> Back in the early 2000s there was a funding scheme in the UK called  
> Culture Online that funded a lot of 'collaborations' (maybe better  
> described as public/private partnerships) between digital agencies  
> and the cultural sector.
>
> I seem to remember that there were a number of reports that were  
> quite critical of the funding model, especially around the  
> sustainability of the project outputs themselves (how many of those  
> sites are still online now?) and also the sustainability of a sudden  
> funding injection into the digital agencies (how many of those  
> agencies got burned?).
>
> Anyway, I know that a lot of the older folk on the MCG list will  
> have memories of this period and those projects and I seem to  
> remember there being heated discussion of them on-list and  
> importantly, some reports that were published.
>
> If you remember or better still have copies of any of these reports  
> I'd really welcome a copy.
>
> Thanks
>
> Seb
>
>
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