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Re: Moonshot, ssh and user account mapping

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Jim Basney <[log in to unmask]>

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Moonshot community list <[log in to unmask]>, Jim Basney <[log in to unmask]>

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Fri, 13 May 2011 10:22:56 -0500

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One aspect of this issue is letting GSS-API choose the target username.
For example, in TeraGrid my username is different across the different
sites, and I rely on an OpenSSH patch to allow the client to specify an
empty string as username. Quoting RFC 4462:

   The user name may be an empty string if it can be deduced from the
   results of the GSS-API authentication.

This way I don't need to remember what my username is at each site. I
just let GSS-API take care of it. The OpenSSH bug about it, with a patch
I attached in 2006, is here:

  https://bugzilla.mindrot.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1100

-Jim

On 5/13/11 9:51 AM, Jason Lander wrote:
> I saw Josh Howletts' presentation on the progress with Moonshot at a
> recent meeting of the HPC Special Interest Group. My background is in
> HPC and Grid computing.
> 
> Firstly, I must say that what you have achieved so far is very impressive.
> 
> What I am less sure about is how the HPC and Grid community would be
> able to use it.
> 
> One potential use for Moonshot is to provide federated SSH access. This
> would be of particular interest to the HPC community.
> 
> It would be seen by many as a great improvement over the current Grid
> solution - GSI enabled SSH using X509 certificates for authentication.
> 
> What I, and some of my colleagues, are unclear about is how the
> authentication information used by moonshot can be mapped to a LOCAL
> account.
> 
> In the grid world, there are many ways in which the information within
> the X509 certificate is mapped to a unique username. Some are able to
> call out to an external service to perform the mapping using XAML as a
> mechanism.
> 
> All the practical use cases require a unique identifier of some sort.
> 
> The Moonshot wiki says:
> 
>  If the mechanism returns the local-login-user attribute (typically mapped
>  using Shibboleth from a SAML attribute or RADIUS attribute), then that
>  attribute controls what local accounts are acceptable
> 
> According to discussions with Josh and with our local RADIUS
> administrator - the standard practise is for the RADIUS server to
> release NO information that uniquely identifies a user.
> 
> Josh did mention that SAML assertions could also be generated, but I was
> not clear on what would be doing the generating.
> 
> So... I'm afraid that I do not understand where how the local-login-user
> attribute will be defined when using Moonshot and SSH.
> 
> I think Josh and Rob Allan at the Daresbury Labs were trying to organise
> a meeting between those who do AAA on the grid and some of the Moonshot
> developers.
> 
> - Jason

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