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Re: Cloud and safe harbors

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"Scourfield, Brenda" <[log in to unmask]>

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Scourfield, Brenda

Date:

Mon, 16 May 2011 12:55:18 +0100

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A couple of years ago we stopped staff downloading the Google Toolbar
and using the spellchecker as we understood (rightly or wrongly) that
the data was sent to a server in the US, checked and then returned,
showing any error.

Thanks
Brenda
 
Brenda Scourfield
Team Leader
I.T.
Pembrokeshire County Council
County Hall
Haverfordwest
SA61 1TP
 
 
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-----Original Message-----
From: This list is for those interested in Data Protection issues
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Marchini, Renzo
Sent: 16 May 2011 12:49
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [data-protection] Cloud and safe harbors

I cover this issue in my book!  www.tinyurl.com/cloud-law. 

There is a shorter treatment of these issues in this months' Privacy Law
& Business if you subscribe to that journal (and should hit your desk
shortly).  

(By the way, when I spoke to salesforce.com they told me that they do
not have a European data centre and all data is in California.) 

Best
Renzo 


Renzo Marchini 
Dechert LLP 
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-----Original Message-----
From: This list is for those interested in Data Protection issues
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Paul Ticher
Sent: 16 May 2011 12:36
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: [data-protection] Cloud and safe harbors

Is anyone aware of a piece of official (or even good unofficial)
guidance on 
cloud computing and safe harbors [sic] from a Data Protection
perspective?

More and more organisations are storing significant amounts of personal
data 
on cloud services.  I know that government data is not allowed to be
stored 
outside the EEA, and that as a result some providers (Salesforce, for 
example) have deliberately set up servers in Europe and guarantee that
that 
data will not leave the jurisdiction.  Many others, however, do not give

such a guarantee or (Google for instance) explicitly refuse to give one.

People say, "Ah, but that doesn't matter.  Google are signed up to Safe 
Harbors."  When you look at Google's entry in the Safe Harbors register,

however, it only refers to the data that Google holds about its own 
customers, not the data stored by customers on Google's systems.

Let us assume that Google is a Data Processor in respect of data it
stores 
on behalf of customers. (But I'm open to arguments on that.)

Google offers its services on a take-it-or-leave-it basis.  Although it 
gives security assurances, I am not convinced that its standard T&Cs
cover 
all the requirements of our Data Protection Act, and the data is
explicitly 
not covered by Safe Harbors.  In that case I don't see how anyone in the
UK 
can use Google's cloud services for storing personal data and at the
same 
time comply with the Act.

I use Google here as a prominent example, not to single them out as
being 
particularly bad.

Am I tying myself in knots here?  Does anyone have an idiot's guide to
Data 
Protection in the cloud, especially when the servers are (or may be)
outside 
the EEA?


Paul Ticher
0116 273 8191
22 Stoughton Drive North, Leicester LE5 5UB

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