Wondering if bookmarking service could read - bookmarking webhook?
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From: Open Educational Resources [[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Brandon Muramatsu [[log in to unmask]]
Sent: 13 April 2011 17:37
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Subject: Re: Mini Project
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 12:26 PM, Phil Barker <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
Hi Paul, everyone,
I like the aspects of this proposal that go beyond bookmarking as seen in Delicious (though as we discussed at the hackdays bookmarking services that don't rely on Yahoo finding the right buyer for Delicious have their attractions).
Phil, that's just the sentiment that I was planning on expressing.
I'll phrase it a slightly different way, perhaps they want to work with all bookmarking services that provide an API (well maybe pick 2).
The way I think of this proposed idea is that the bookmarking service is a data store for at least some of the metadata. One of the reasons I think bookmarking services were successful in their day and age is that they were very simple to use: URL, title, maybe a description, and tags. As educational technologists, we'd like to see a bit more structure. But it's hard to argue with the simplicity and how much use that simplicity drove.
(We had a set of projects called Folksemantic--linking folksonomies (essentially the self-tagging) and semantic. A few years back we were looking at how we might extract "semantic" meaning from items that were tagged up.)
Also, I'd be a bit concerned about orphaning data if the service went down or was discontinued.
So the twist I'm suggesting is a front end to a bookmarking service that allows you to collect additional structured data while storing some (or all of it) in an existing bookmarking service. (There's a big *if* here, if the service has an API that allows this.)
My other thought is has twitter and hastags and URL shorteners replaced bookmarking services? If they have, what might that imply for the project?
Brandon
Anyway, a couple of questions:
1. your starting point: is there a reason for starting from scratch? Correct me if I am wrong, but I recall from the hack days that you didn't base your bookmarker on any existing system or portal software. Even discounting the ideas of using blogging platforms for bookmarking, there seem to be several existing open source bookmarking software projects that might make a suitable starting point for what you propose. Anyway, is there and instance of the demonstrator available that people can look at? (on the understanding that it is a rough demo resulting from a day or so's work)
2. you mentioned paradata, can you see any way of working with the Learning Registry in order to feed this paradata into their system?
All the best, Phil.
On 08/04/2011 16:05, Paul Horner wrote:
Dear All
Given that the deadline for mini project proposals is now less than an hour away, please find attached a hastily assembled bid on behalf of Newcastle University, for 'Project 3' - the Open Call.
The document is a bit formal, so as a summary the idea we're putting forward is for an OER Bookmarking tool. For those of you who were at the Hackdays last week, this idea will sound pretty familiar because what we're proposing is extending the work we demoed at the end of that workshop. However, this time we'll be providing a fully featured system (well, a fully featured demonstrator and all the source code) rather than the proof of concept we showed last Friday.
We've tried to think from the start about how other systems will be able to utilise/harvest/add to the data that this system will capture, including the social/user-generated metadata/paradata, and we're going to pilot this side of things with an existing system in place at Newcastle (Dynamic Learning Maps). We've thought a lot about the user experience - making it as easy as possible to get data in and out and providing ways for users to enhance the data (commenting, rating etc). We're even proposing to build in the 'playlists' idea that was suggested to this group last week (which I think is a fantastic idea in its own right).
One thing I should probably stress is that this isn't just a clone of delicious. OER (and licensing in particular) is central to this system. It is an attempt to make it easier for license information about a resource to be discovered and distributed and we hope to do it in such a way that doesn't unduly affect the user experience.
So, over to you. Please let us know whether you think it's a worthwhile (and achievable) project. In our opinion we're proposing something that would be extremely useful and would prove to be very good value for money.
Thanks
Paul
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