Me too! :)
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From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Chris Webster
Sent: 08 April 2011 14:33
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Subject: Re: New Heritage List queries
Too late, Phil. I've downloaded an unlicensed copy and am off to ebay now!
Chris Webster
Somerset Historic Environment Record
Somerset Heritage Centre
Brunel Way
Taunton
TA2 6SF
01823 347434
Online HER: www.somerset.gov.uk/her
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From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of CARLISLE, Philip
Sent: 08 April 2011 14:31
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Subject: Re: New Heritage List queries
Crispin,
Does the website have the ability to issue a licence and send it to DSU?
Phil
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From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Crispin Flower
Sent: 08 April 2011 13:58
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Subject: Re: New Heritage List queries
Hi Alex and Tim and other non-HBSMR folk
The latest thesaurus on our web site can be downloaded by anyone. There is nothing proprietary about this, and it's in - "csv" format (an open text format - character separated values). You can open the files in notepad, Excel, or import into databases.
The latest thesaurus is the top item here:
http://www.esdm.co.uk/downloads/HBSMR.asp
and the Heritage List concordance file will be put there as well when we get it from EH. I'll let you know.
Enjoy!
Crispin
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From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Godden, Alex
Sent: 08 April 2011 13:16
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Thanks, Martin - I'll contact Lorraine on Monday to request a copy
All the best
Alex
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From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of NEWMAN, Martin
Sent: 08 April 2011 12:47
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Subject: Re: New Heritage List queries
The file will be non propriatorial, it will be a .csv file giving old and new numbers. exeGesIS may do something with it for HBSMR users but that is a matter for them and the HBSMR Users Group.
Martin
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From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Godden, Alex
Sent: 08 April 2011 12:18
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Subject: Re: [HERFORUM] New Heritage List queries
Hi Martin,
Will there be a .csv for non-HBSMR HERs? We use a bespoke system
Thanks
Alex
Alex Godden BA (Hons) MA
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Strategic Environmental Delivery Group
Economy, Transport and Environment Department Hampshire County Council
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From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Sarah Poppy
Sent: 08 April 2011 12:10
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Subject: Re: New Heritage List queries
Hi Martin,
While we are on the subject, and apologies if I have missed something, but is there a list of the 350 OCNs that have been re-assessed, or will that be self-evident in the concordance file?
All the best
sarah
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From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Chris Webster
Sent: 08 April 2011 12:07
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Subject: Re: New Heritage List queries
That's fine, thanks Martin.
Chris Webster
Somerset Historic Environment Record
Somerset Heritage Centre
Brunel Way
Taunton
TA2 6SF
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From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of NEWMAN, Martin
Sent: 08 April 2011 12:06
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Subject: Re: New Heritage List queries
Chris,
No national numbers were assigned to the OCNs that were re-assessed under the OCN Project. This data was added into the new Unified Designation System which sits behind the Heritage List Access. These sites went straight from their Old County Number to the new number in the list without going through an intermediary national number. The data you will get on the concordance file and the data download will give the OCN for these records.
I hope this clarifies things for you.
Martin
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From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Chris Webster
Sent: 07 April 2011 18:07
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Subject: Re: [HERFORUM] New Heritage List queries
Thanks for that Martin, could you just clarify the last bit about SM numbers. My point was that we don't (well I don't) know the national SM numbers that were assigned during the OCN project, so if the concordance you are intending to provide was just SM national number -> NHLE number we wouldn't know what the OCN ones were.
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Chris Webster
Somerset Historic Environment Record
Somerset County Council
Somerset Heritage Centre
Brunel Way
Taunton
TA2 6SH
01823 347434
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From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records on behalf of NEWMAN, Martin
Sent: Thu 07/04/2011 17:17
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: New Heritage List queries
In response to the queries raised and the feedback we have received we are putting together the concordance list required for mapping old to new heritage asset numbers. This should be ready by Monday 11th April and will be made available as a .csv file on the exegesis website. You can also request a copy from Lorraine Summerfield ([log in to unmask] or 01793 414883) - a copy will be sent out as soon as it is available. LB Online data will remain on the Heritage Gateway until early next week when we are hoping to release the National Heritage List for England which will replace the LB Online cross-search.
Additionally the spatial data download will contain a Legacy UID field as well as a field for the new List Entry number. However, the data download site has yet to be refreshed following the new Heritage List for England going live. This has been delayed because some spatial depictions failed to migrate to the new system. Consequently we are having to put these back manually. We are treating this as a high priority and are hoping to have the data download site refreshed next week. We will let the Forum know when this is available.
To clarify another point raised in this thread all scheduled monuments will have been given a completely new number in the Heritage List For England whether they were previously and Old County Number (OCN) or a national number (MPP and later). This includes all those schedulings reviewed under the desk based OCN project to revise around 350 schedulings prior to migration into the new system.'
Martin
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