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Re: Cluster Design

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Kay Diederichs <[log in to unmask]>

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Kay Diederichs <[log in to unmask]>

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Tue, 19 Apr 2011 14:25:43 +0200

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Hi Frank,

the following are some recommendation for increasing the processing 
speed of XDS. You can find them (and add to them !) at 
http://strucbio.biologie.uni-konstanz.de/xdswiki/index.php/Performance . 
Only item 7 is specific for a cluster.

In the order of effect:

    1. XDS scales well (i.e. the wallclock time for data processing goes 
down when the number of available cores is increased) in the COLSPOT, 
IDXREF, INTEGRATE and CORRECT steps when using the 
MAXIMUM_NUMBER_OF_PROCESSORS keyword. This triggers program-level 
parallelization, using OpenMP threads.
    2. the program scales very well in the COLSPOT and INTEGRATE steps 
when using the MAXIMUM_NUMBER_OF_JOBS keyword. This triggers a 
shell-level parallelization.
    3. combining these both keywords gives the highest performance in my 
experience (see [[1]] for an example). As a rough guide, I'd choose them 
to be approximately equal; an even number for 
MAXIMUM_NUMBER_OF_PROCESSORS should be chosen because that fits better 
with usual hardware.
    4. some overcommitting of resources (i.e. 
MAXIMUM_NUMBER_OF_PROCESSORS * MAXIMUM_NUMBER_OF_JOBS > number of cores) 
is beneficial; you'll have to play with these two parameters.
    5. the next thing to consider is DELPHI together with 
OSCILLATION_RANGE: if DELPHI is an integer multiple of 
MAXIMUM_NUMBER_OF_PROCESSORS * OSCILLATION_RANGE that would be good 
because it nicely balances the usage of the threads. For this purpose, 
you may want to change (raise) the value of DELPHI (default is 5 
degrees). If you are doing fine-slicing then mis-balancing of threads is 
not an issue - but for those users who want to collect 1° frames (which 
I think is not the best way nowadays ...) it should be a consideration.
    6. performance-wise, I/O also plays a role because as soon as you 
run 24 or so processes then a single GB ethernet connection may be 
limiting. OTOH shell-level parallelization smoothes the load.
    7. XDS with the MAXIMUM_NUMBER_OF_JOBS keyword can use several 
machines. This requires some setup as explained at the bottom of 
http://www.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de/~kabsch/xds/html_doc/downloading.html .
    8. Hyperthreading (SMT), if available on Intel CPUs, is beneficial. 
A "virtual" core has only about 20% performance of a "physical" core but 
it comes at no cost - you just have to switch it on in the BIOS of the 
machine.
    9. The 64-bit binaries generally are a bit faster than the 32-bit 
binaries (but that's not specific for XDS).

HTH,

Kay

On 04/19/2011 02:06 PM, Frank Murphy wrote:
> Dear All,
>
> Here at NE-CAT, we make extensive use of XDS in a parallel environment. We are looking to purchase some new hardware, so I am soliciting your opinions.
>
> Our current cluster is made up of 16 nodes, each with 2 processors that have four cores, running at 2.2 GHz (I believe). We run with hyperthreading on, so 8 physical and 16 virtual cores per node.
>
> Our benchmarking with XDS (see https://rapd.nec.aps.anl.gov/wiki/RAPD_NecatStats for an example) shows a diminishing return on increasing the MAXIMUM_NUMBER_OF_PROCESSORS beyond the number of physical cores, and we are wondering if this is due to the test, the processor, the RAM, or XDS. In short, will going to 2 six core processors speed up processing using up to 12 for  MAXIMUM_NUMBER_OF_PROCESSORS?
>
> Please do not feel the need to constrain the discussion to XDS, as we use our cluster for pretty much all the common crystallographic tasks.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Frank Murphy
> Beamline Scientist, NE-CAT


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