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Re: Interesting article

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"Richard Jones [Pathology]" <[log in to unmask]>

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Interestingly I've settled on Webex. Run by CISCO who I think know what they are doing. Have had very little proble with it and have done some clever stuff. Broadcast talks from a regional meeting - some OCCO leads were able to follow it well from around teh country. Have had people dial in to meetings and present lecture  - even impressed Microsoft with htis.

Also have just run two consultation weminars with 20 participants  from around the world without issues other than dialin working better than voip. Cost just £30 per month. ROI massive if you avoid just one £239 fare to London a month  and it's green.

The IG people are getting cage though as the screen sharing is not auditable so you coudl be showing patient data openly over the internet. Hence I do fear the firewall blocks will increase. I believe an NHS N3 project for desktop sharing is in progress but that cuts out the academics and suppliers and probably a large bunch of other health professionals.

On MDTs the key is having an oncology EPR. This is because the clinical data is preloaded and doesn't need to be collected. We have such a thing and networking pathology, PACs and other sources in is routine. Latest development of Pathology Powerwall - see http://www.virtualpathology.leeds.ac.uk/research/HCI/Powerwall/virtual_reality_powerwall.php

Direct slide project at massive resolution

Biggest issue is that when the diagnosis is updated on the EPR it doesn't get updated in pathology so things get out of sync - propcess change needed. there.

Rick


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Subject: Re: Interesting article

Yes.

1 Usual remarks about the unsatisfactoriness of videoconferencing.

2 We had an MSc student studying MDTs. The information management could only be made to work if someone ran around the day before finding and preloading files etc. Otherwise the meetings were disrupted by firewalls and poor performance, just as Craig says.

Jonathan




On 20 Apr 2011, at 09:28, Webster Craig wrote:

Yes, some of the cloud solutions would be difficult to implement because of the poor infrastructure, try using any internet based technology on most days here and you'll spend your time waiting for even web pages to load.

I tried running an e-meeting using gotomeeting for the regional college council here and managed to talk to one person, the rest were blocked by firewalls and poor performance. Try distributing documents by something like google docs and again hardly anyone can connect.

This type of stuff is increasingly basic and would make my life easier and save money e.g next regional council meeting at Wolverhampton for an afternoon x say 6 consultants plus cancelled clinics = very expensive way of doing business.


Cheers
Craig


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Hi all

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-13118566

Cheers

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