I can imagine joining in
I think I fell off with changes of ISP
I remember rejoining and then wondering, to some extent, wondering where
the many were
But I imagine joining in
L
On Mon, March 14, 2011 17:52, Sue Thomas wrote:
> Well this is all very interesting. For quite a while I have viewed WDL as
> mostly announcements only. I can't remember the last time there was a
> lively discussion here - and now there is!
>
> So if you want me to keep it open, I'm happy to do that. Was just
> cleaning house. Glad to hear the list is valued.
>
> Sue
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On 14 Mar 2011, at 17:27, "Simon Biggs" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>
>> Marc makes a good point. One doesn't close a community. Ghost towns
>> were once communities - and sometimes people move back in again. If you
>> tear it down then that's that.
>>
>> All the lists I run on JISC are closed and ultra-low traffic so very
>> low maintenance. I never have to worry about spam or moderation. Only
>> invited members can post. Posts from non-members are automatically
>> rejected. I co-moderate empyre, which is an open list and therefore more
>> work. But there are two other moderators who are the owners, so the
>> work-load is spread.
>>
>> I could take over admin of WDL. If I was to do that then I'd want it to
>> be more active than it currently is. A digital literature list would, I
>> am sure, have some interest. I am aware of the other lists on the topic,
>> like digitalpoetry, eeuropoetry, eulit and netpoetics. Others have
>> ceased, like alt-x. Others are not so much lists as portals, like ELO
>> and ELMCIP.
>>
>> Do people think there is a demand for WDL to keep going? How many
>> members are there? Are we all lurkers on all our lists, or active
>> elsewhere? If the latter then WDL could still have some life in it
>> yet...
>>
>> Best
>>
>>
>> Simon
>>
>>
>>
>> On 14/03/2011 16:32, "marc garrett" <[log in to unmask]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Hi Sue, Joel & list...
>>>
>>>
>>> Sad news that this list is closing down. Especially when it
>>> specifically explored contexts and ideas in respect of writing & its
>>> relationship to being digital, culturally and academically.
>>>
>>> I also feel that it's a shame that another email list community which
>>> has been around since 2005 is now leaving a dynamically shared,
>>> expansive, networked culture of media arts & associated practices.
>>> When
>>> considering the bigger picture, the culture of this varied and ever
>>> creative field has gone through many changes. Closing down a
>>> community (whether virtual or physical) is a significant shift,
>>> especially when considering personal the time and investment into such
>>> a venture by those who have been involved with the list and its
>>> long-time users.
>>>
>>> It is essential to have pockets or places to go to on the Internet
>>> where we can escape with others, away from commercial intrusion or
>>> over-powering McDonald like places, such as Facebook etc - which
>>> serve a purpose, but in the end are more like big shoppiing malls. It
>>> is important to have out there, smaller projects and groups connecting
>>> with each other, at deeper levels mutually discovering and critiquing
>>> subject matters; whilst knowing a text does not have to be limited to
>>> less than 40 characters or lost in a platform orientated around data
>>> collection as well culturalized mediation.
>>>
>>> As Joel has mentioned the netbehaviour (www.netbehaviour.org) list is
>>> based in the UK. We are not part of an educational institution but
>>> are extremely dedicated to art, technology, social contexts and free
>>> culture. It is dynamic and can be a bit wild sometimes and has grown
>>> organically with an open attitude around user moderation, we feel
>>> that creative individuals and groups need to be allowed the freedom to
>>> explore on their own terms, individually and with others. There are
>>> about 740 users on the list. I am aware that we already have some
>>> members from WDL on netbehaviour & they are the best people to ask if
>>> you need more information - Anyone is welcome :-)
>>>
>>> wishing all well.
>>>
>>> marc
>>>
>>> www.furtherfield.org
>>>> Sue;
>>>> Perhaps everyone should be referred to the NetBehaviour List, which
>>>> also originates in the UK: [log in to unmask]
>>>> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>>>> -Joel
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> *From:* Sue Thomas <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>>>> *To:* [log in to unmask]
>>>> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>>>> *Sent:* Monday, March 14, 2011 8:16 AM
>>>> *Subject:* [WDL] handover?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Joel et al
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I’m sorry, i realise that i should have offered the chance for
>>>> someone else to run it. Due to the JISC rules, I think that person
>>>> has to have an ac.uk email address but I’d be happy to hand it
>>>> over if anyone would like it.
>>>>
>>>> Best
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> sue
>>>>
>>>> *From:*[log in to unmask]
>>>> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>>>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] *On Behalf Of
>>>> *Joel Weishaus
>>>> *Sent:* 14 March 2011 15:14
>>>> *To:* [log in to unmask]
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [WDL] This list is closing
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dear Sue;
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I hate to see it close down, but I understand.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Warm Wishes,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Joel
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:*Sue Thomas <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *To:*[log in to unmask]
>>>> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Sent:*Monday, March 14, 2011 7:44 AM
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Subject:*[WDL] This list is closing
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dear list members
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The Writing and Digital Life list has been running since 2005
>>>> and is used very little these days so I propose to close it down this
>>>> Friday 18^th March.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Please feel free to circulate personal updates, news and
>>>> contact addresses in the next few days before the list is closed.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks to all for your participation and interest.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Best wishes
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sue
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _________________
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Professor Sue Thomas
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Faculty of Humanities/Institute of Creative Technologies
>>>> Clephan 1.01d
>>>> De Montfort University
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The Gateway
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Leicester
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> LE1 9BH, UK
>>>>
>>>>
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