Dear Roger
On methodological grounds we might ask what are the threats to validity,
internal and external to Gerrands results - but lets not (till tomorrow
when we have some to think).
More importantly one of the most senior police officers in the UK :
Deputy Chief Constable of Cheshire Constabulary and ACPO lead on CCTV,
from his own research, has now confirmed that the average British
citizen is caught on a CTVV system 70 times a day, and there are 1.85
million CCTV cameras in the UK . No only that he has done so with good
grace. He didn't rubbish the the previous figures, (See radio 4 news
6.00pm 3rd march) ) he treated the figues with the respect they deserve
( as guesstimates). Im less concerned with how these cameras undermine
our privacy - but the extent they reinforce social exclusion. If im a
young black male , I probably dont give a toss about might privacy
rights - but I care deeply that the security guard says I can't enter
the Mall.
Clive
On 04/03/2011 01:13, Roger Clarke wrote:
> At 0:49 +0000 4/3/11, Clive Norris wrote:
>> http://www.acpo.police.uk/ThePoliceChiefsBlog/20110303GraemeGerrardsCCTVblog.aspx
>>
>> Graeme Gerrard
>> Deputy Chief Constable, Cheshire Constabulary
>> ACPO lead on CCTV
>> 3 March 2011
>
> Michael McCahill and Clive Norris provided a 2003 estimate of 4.2
> million CCTV cameras in the UK.
>
> Garry Armstrong and Clive Norris provided a scenario in 1999 in which
> a fictional character on a fictional journey around London would be
> captured on 'security cameras' 300 times in the day.
>
> Graeme Gerrard provides alternative estimates in March 2011 of:
> - 1.85 million CCTV cameras in the UK
> - an average person doing average things will be 'caught' on CCTV
> less than 70 times per day, mostly in the workplace or in shops
>
> The difference seems to me to be essentially irrelevant.
>
> Very large numbers of these installations resulted from knee-jerk
> reactions to current security concerns, were not subject to careful
> evaluation, lack the associated infrastructure and resources, and
> demonstrably don't make significant contributions to security.
>
> Yet, whether or not they make much in the way of positive
> contributions, they bring with them privacy threats that are both
> specific (leakage of personal data, inconvenience and worse arising
> from false positives) and generic (chilling effect); and in many
> cases those privacy threats are subject to seriously inadequate
> safeguards.
>
> Do we have a citizen / consumer / employee Standard in place that can
> be used to assess existing installations and proposals for new and
> changed installations, and to guide organisations undertaking their
> own assessments?
>
> Here's one proposal for such a Standard:
> APF Policy Statement re Visual Surveillance, incl. CCTV
> http://www.privacy.org.au/Papers/CCTV-1001.html
>
>
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