Hello Caroline,
Thanks for your very useful Message.
I am interested in the Tretheweys as I am writing up part of the project
which the PDMHS Conservation Team has carried out at High Rake Mine in
Derbyshire.
Over the last 10 years we have excavated and conserved the complete site of
William Wyatt's 1840's attempt to sink through the toadstone at High Rake.
This includes the bottom third of the Sims Engine House which was completely
buried before our efforts. To complement our excavation, work in the various
Record Offices has located almost all the documentation relating to the
mine. This includes the Reckoning Book, the Shareholders book and over 1400
items of Wyatt's correspondence. The Reckoning book lists around 238
day-rate workers and 265 suppliers of goods and services. My part of the
write up includes trying to trace as many of the workers and suppliers as
possible. With regard to the suppliers I am trying to trace the connections
which led certain individuals to receive orders from Wyatt. As far as the
day-rate workers go, I am trying to trace where they come from, and what
happened to them after the mine closed in 1852. I have managed, through the
census returns and directory entries, to trace over 50% of the workers.
This is where the Tretheweys come in - what I am trying to find is - where
did they come from? - and where did they go after the mine started to run
down in 1848-9?
So, as such, I'm not particularly interested the genealogy of the Tretheweys
solely for its own end - but I'm trying to build up a picture of why they
came up to Derbyshire, and what happened to them afterwards.
I did discover yesterday, that Samuel purchased some shares in a mine in
Derbyshire, whilst he was here.
Your link to Canada is interesting, as a completely unreferenced mention on
ancestry.co.uk says that Samuel died in Canada.
Thanks in advance for any other information you can dig up for me. A copy of
your family tree in Stoke Climsland would be very useful.
Dave Williams
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From: mining-history [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
Caroline Vulliamy
Sent: 04 March 2011 23:24
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Subject: Re: Trethewey, Engineers.
Dear David,
You were looking for Tretheweys:
We have a family tree in the Stoke Climsland Parish Archive with two
brothers Samuel and James, and about ten brothers and sisters. Whereas there
are details of the later life of many of them, there's nothing about these
two - perhaps they moved up north ?
The previous generation has another Samuel and James, and their 8 siblings.
Samuel was the older, James his next brother down, was b in 1825. Samuel
went to Australia (no details), James m Fanny Hooper and went to Tavistock.
No more info about either. Their oldest brother was William James, b 1811.
Their father was Thomas, b 1786. He died in Breague (W Cornwall) in 1841.
Maybe your Sam (b 1796 - the same age as the Sam you found in Breague in
1861) and Jas (b 1798) were brothers of his, and maybe your William was his
oldest son (b 1811).
I'll look in the Parish Registers for more detail of their births, but I
don't think those ones were living here. It would be a good idea to look at
the records for Breague as well, since the family may have originated there.
Each generation seems to have gone off all over the world, suggesting a
mining family. They may well have been engineers - one of them has
Trevithick as a middle name, and some of the girls marry into the clergy.
As well as the researcher of this family tree, we have been contacted by
three other Tretheweys, and I can let you have their contact details.
Do e-mail me off-list if you like,
Caroline Vulliamy
Stoke Climsland Parish Archive, and East Cornwall Mining History Assn.
> Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 17:19:05 +0000
> From: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Trethewey, Engineers.
> To: [log in to unmask]
>
> Good afternoon.
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> I am interested in learning more of the history of James and Samuel
> Trethewey.
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> These gentlemen arrived in Derbyshire sometime (but not much) before the
> 1841 Census. They arrived in Derbyshire to work at the Alport Mines for
John
> Taylor, but eventually transferred their employment to work for William
> Wyatt at Watergrove Mine, Foolow, and High Rake Mine, Windmill. At these
> mines Samuel, in particular, worked on the Sims Combined Engine at High
> Rake, and the large engine at Watergrove Mine. At the time of the 1841
> Census James, aged 43 and an engineer, and his wife, Betsey, aged 42, were
> living in the cottage at Watergrove, together with 4 children, Samuel,
aged
> 10, William, aged 8, James, aged 6, and Walter, aged 4. All these six were
> born outside Derbyshire. At the same time Samuel, aged 45 and an engineer,
> was living (apparently without a wife) about a mile or so away. He had six
> children with him - Harriett, aged 15, Samuel, aged 14, Paul Robins, aged
> 11, James, aged 9, Agnes, aged 6, and Jabez, aged 2. All except Jabez were
> not born in Derbyshire. There may also have been a William Trethewey as
> there were two children of William and Harriett Trethewey baptised at
> Bakewell Wesleyan Chapel in 1845 and 1849.
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>
>
> All of these Tretheweys had disappeared by the time of the 1851 Census,
> presumably as both Watergrove and High Rake were on their last legs at
this
> time. The only Trethewey that I have been able to find later in Derbyshire
> is Samuel, son of Samuel, who was described as an engineer of Ripley (on
the
> coalfield) when he married a girl from near Watergrove in 1853.
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>
> In the 1861 Census I have found a Samuel Trethewey, Mining Engineer, aged
> 66, living as a lodger at Church Town, Breage. He is listed as being
> married, but he is on his own, and was born in St. Dennis.
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>
> Can anyone fill any gaps in the history of the Tretheweys?
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> Thanks, in advance.
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>
> Dave Williams
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