David,
Glad if it's helpful.
Will send you family tree by post.
I don't think I mentioned Canada, but one of our researchers is indeed there.
Went to High Rake with NAMHO last (?) year - really liked it.
Caroline
> Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 10:11:07 +0000
> From: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Trethewey, Engineers.
> To: [log in to unmask]
>
> Hello Caroline,
>
> Thanks for your very useful Message.
>
> I am interested in the Tretheweys as I am writing up part of the project
> which the PDMHS Conservation Team has carried out at High Rake Mine in
> Derbyshire.
>
> Over the last 10 years we have excavated and conserved the complete site of
> William Wyatt's 1840's attempt to sink through the toadstone at High Rake.
> This includes the bottom third of the Sims Engine House which was completely
> buried before our efforts. To complement our excavation, work in the various
> Record Offices has located almost all the documentation relating to the
> mine. This includes the Reckoning Book, the Shareholders book and over 1400
> items of Wyatt's correspondence. The Reckoning book lists around 238
> day-rate workers and 265 suppliers of goods and services. My part of the
> write up includes trying to trace as many of the workers and suppliers as
> possible. With regard to the suppliers I am trying to trace the connections
> which led certain individuals to receive orders from Wyatt. As far as the
> day-rate workers go, I am trying to trace where they come from, and what
> happened to them after the mine closed in 1852. I have managed, through the
> census returns and directory entries, to trace over 50% of the workers.
>
> This is where the Tretheweys come in - what I am trying to find is - where
> did they come from? - and where did they go after the mine started to run
> down in 1848-9?
>
> So, as such, I'm not particularly interested the genealogy of the Tretheweys
> solely for its own end - but I'm trying to build up a picture of why they
> came up to Derbyshire, and what happened to them afterwards.
>
> I did discover yesterday, that Samuel purchased some shares in a mine in
> Derbyshire, whilst he was here.
>
> Your link to Canada is interesting, as a completely unreferenced mention on
> ancestry.co.uk says that Samuel died in Canada.
>
> Thanks in advance for any other information you can dig up for me. A copy of
> your family tree in Stoke Climsland would be very useful.
>
> Dave Williams
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mining-history [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
> Caroline Vulliamy
> Sent: 04 March 2011 23:24
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Trethewey, Engineers.
>
> Dear David,
> You were looking for Tretheweys:
>
> We have a family tree in the Stoke Climsland Parish Archive with two
> brothers Samuel and James, and about ten brothers and sisters. Whereas there
> are details of the later life of many of them, there's nothing about these
> two - perhaps they moved up north ?
>
> The previous generation has another Samuel and James, and their 8 siblings.
> Samuel was the older, James his next brother down, was b in 1825. Samuel
> went to Australia (no details), James m Fanny Hooper and went to Tavistock.
> No more info about either. Their oldest brother was William James, b 1811.
>
> Their father was Thomas, b 1786. He died in Breague (W Cornwall) in 1841.
> Maybe your Sam (b 1796 - the same age as the Sam you found in Breague in
> 1861) and Jas (b 1798) were brothers of his, and maybe your William was his
> oldest son (b 1811).
>
> I'll look in the Parish Registers for more detail of their births, but I
> don't think those ones were living here. It would be a good idea to look at
> the records for Breague as well, since the family may have originated there.
> Each generation seems to have gone off all over the world, suggesting a
> mining family. They may well have been engineers - one of them has
> Trevithick as a middle name, and some of the girls marry into the clergy.
>
> As well as the researcher of this family tree, we have been contacted by
> three other Tretheweys, and I can let you have their contact details.
>
> Do e-mail me off-list if you like,
> Caroline Vulliamy
>
> Stoke Climsland Parish Archive, and East Cornwall Mining History Assn.
>
> > Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 17:19:05 +0000
> > From: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Trethewey, Engineers.
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> >
> > Good afternoon.
> >
> >
> >
> > I am interested in learning more of the history of James and Samuel
> > Trethewey.
> >
> >
> >
> > These gentlemen arrived in Derbyshire sometime (but not much) before the
> > 1841 Census. They arrived in Derbyshire to work at the Alport Mines for
> John
> > Taylor, but eventually transferred their employment to work for William
> > Wyatt at Watergrove Mine, Foolow, and High Rake Mine, Windmill. At these
> > mines Samuel, in particular, worked on the Sims Combined Engine at High
> > Rake, and the large engine at Watergrove Mine. At the time of the 1841
> > Census James, aged 43 and an engineer, and his wife, Betsey, aged 42, were
> > living in the cottage at Watergrove, together with 4 children, Samuel,
> aged
> > 10, William, aged 8, James, aged 6, and Walter, aged 4. All these six were
> > born outside Derbyshire. At the same time Samuel, aged 45 and an engineer,
> > was living (apparently without a wife) about a mile or so away. He had six
> > children with him - Harriett, aged 15, Samuel, aged 14, Paul Robins, aged
> > 11, James, aged 9, Agnes, aged 6, and Jabez, aged 2. All except Jabez were
> > not born in Derbyshire. There may also have been a William Trethewey as
> > there were two children of William and Harriett Trethewey baptised at
> > Bakewell Wesleyan Chapel in 1845 and 1849.
> >
> >
> >
> > All of these Tretheweys had disappeared by the time of the 1851 Census,
> > presumably as both Watergrove and High Rake were on their last legs at
> this
> > time. The only Trethewey that I have been able to find later in Derbyshire
> > is Samuel, son of Samuel, who was described as an engineer of Ripley (on
> the
> > coalfield) when he married a girl from near Watergrove in 1853.
> >
> >
> >
> > In the 1861 Census I have found a Samuel Trethewey, Mining Engineer, aged
> > 66, living as a lodger at Church Town, Breage. He is listed as being
> > married, but he is on his own, and was born in St. Dennis.
> >
> >
> >
> > Can anyone fill any gaps in the history of the Tretheweys?
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks, in advance.
> >
> >
> >
> > Dave Williams
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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