Point taken, Dave
which is why I said 'a major Modernist poet.' Actually, I dont like rating & choosing 'the one.' Jones is incredible, if off putting to many. Briggflats a masterpiece, The Waste Land stands there & cant be moved, & Pound, after all, was there too. So maybe Britain, but definitely London...?
And there's that winter Pound spent with Yeats, which affected them both profoundly in the directions their work too.
Bunting comes along a bit later, & finds his own way to a poetic that I admit I wish had had more impact on writing in his native country, but....
Doug
On 2011-03-18, at 3:23 AM, David Bircumshaw wrote:
> Well, whatever you think of him, Eliot was very obviously 'Britain's', a
> large rocky mass, with topsoil, off the coast of Europe, 'greatest
> modernist poet'. There are also people like MacDiarmid and David Jones. It's
> an embarrasing fact, but the early centre of modernist in English poetry was
> as much Britain as the USA. True, there were as an overwhelmingly
> conservative middlebrow readership, but that was in both countries, and it
> still applies today, with fresh paint, as it were.
>
> Couple of stray facts - in the House of Lords in the 1920s there was a
> debate on the poor state of contemporary English poetry - Eliot's 'The Waste
> Land' excepted. John Ashbery's significant early poetic guide: Nicholas
> Moore.
>
> On 17 March 2011 14:35, Douglas Barbour <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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>> 'Bunting was Britain’s greatest Modernist poet (by some way, although
>> admittedly the field isn’t large) and yet he is slipping away from us.'
>>
>> But then he is also a major Modernist poet, not just in Britain, & over in
>> North America his, admittedly small during his lifetime, readership did
>> recognize that.
>>
>> One of the ones to re-read.
>>
>> Doug
>> On 2011-03-17, at 2:05 AM, Max Richards wrote:
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