Sorry, the link to Ivan's blog wasn't meant to be instead of your ref,
I was just adding as you hadn't mentioned it I wondered if you had
seen it. I assume you feel similarly about the Guardian reporting Ivan
links to as well then?
I'd say that Ivan's likely to want to know more about the scientific
community's reaction - it might be worth leaving a comment on his
blogpost
(which may well also be seen by more science journalists than are
likely to read psci com, if catching their attention is your aim...)
Alice
On 25 February 2011 16:22, Stephan Matthiesen
<[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Dear Alice,
>
> Am 25.02.2011 16:08, schrieb alice bell:
>>
>> It was covered by Ivan Oransky in his retraction watch blog:
>
> I know, but that is a very incomplete report and completely ignores the
> reaction of the scientific community, which is, in my opinion, the more
> interesting one.
>
> This is not just another scandal about a lying politician, but about a deep
> division on scientific integrity.
>
> I would ask you to rely not only on Ivans blog, but at least read the
> comment on Deutsche welle (first link in my post) to get a fuller picture.
>
> Cheers
> Stephan
>
>> On 25 February 2011 15:38, Stephan Matthiesen
>> <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Although highly relevant for public perception of science, the Guttenberg
>>> scandal seems to be mostly ignored in the english-speaking world... it
>>> has
>>> been brewing for a few weeks, but now it seems about to erupt into an
>>> open
>>> fight between the scientific community and the government.
>>>
>>> In the last few days there have been press releaseses by all major
>>> funding
>>> and research organisations as well as editorials in science magazines,
>>> demanding that the government takes scientific integrity seriously and
>>> that
>>> scientific plagiarism is not just a minor offence, but should have
>>> serious
>>> consequences - even if the perpetrator is a slick and popular politician.
>>>
>>> The only English comment I can find is here:
>>> "it's about the reputation of the German academic system"
>>> http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,,14871392,00.html
>>>
>>> Unfortunately I can't other a good English summaries - perhaps some
>>> British
>>> journalist would like to take that up?
>>>
>>> Here are misc. statements in German from the scientific community:
>>>
>>> German Research Foundation: "Science relies on truthfulness, integrity
>>> and
>>> trust"
>>>
>>> http://www.dfg.de/dfg_profil/reden_stellungnahmen/2011/110225_stellungnahme_plagiate_fehlverhalten/index.html
>>>
>>> German Association of University Teachers (DHV):
>>> "DHV is appalled that plagiarism is not taken seriously"
>>> http://www.hochschulverband.de/cms1/pressemitteilung+M55f181284f8.html
>>>
>>> Carsten Könneker, spektrumdirekt:
>>> "This is not a good advert for politics. But the biggest damage is done
>>> to
>>> science."
>>> http://www.wissenschaft-online.de/artikel/1064890&_z=859070
>>>
>>> Hope people find this interesting.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Stephan
>>>
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