I have no sense that I have done "the right thing". I may well have done
something wrong. I mean ill-advised. Or excessive.
I'm on MySpace. Years ago now someone told me that he owed what success he
had as a musician to myspace; so I joined!
I think it may be what he did with it. I just joined and waited. I'm on
LinkedIn. (I get long lists of people who are joined to each other.)
I prefer to keep up my own contacts; but I'm crap at it.
I'm experimenting with ArtSlant now and that has certainly helped a bit.
The worry is that a system which delivers advantages also equally
alienates in other directions.
I may be the wrong mentality for social networking by software!
On Wed, February 23, 2011 17:15, Douglas Barbour wrote:
> AH, well, what we bring to our reading, thus making it up, too, Lawrence.
>
>
> I can see why you would have quite FB. We havent sen that here. I am on
> it, as are some others on this list, mainly because it's a way of keeping
> in touch with other writers (my 'friends' there are almost all fellow
> writers (some of whom barely use it; others of whom do quite a lot).
> Quite a few little presses, writers groups, also use it, as a way of
> advertising inexpensively, & keeping at least a small audience in touch
> with what theyre about.
>
> As for the rest, thanks for the back story.
>
>
> Doug
>
>
> On 2011-02-23, at 9:15 AM, Lawrence Upton wrote:
>
>
>> That's interesting, Doug
>>
>>
>> I was on facebook and withdrew when they took an advert from British
>> National Party. Of course, they ignored me.
>>
>>
>> I find it difficult sometimes because it is in some quarters assumed
>> that I have access to Facebook or would wish to. And I am still
>> ostracising them.
>>
>> When I explain, I am ridiculed,particularly from a certain country to
>> the south of you - do I really think that I am going to influence
>> facebook? they ask contemptuously
>>
>> (This is a minority, of course, but they do seem to come from USA; and
>> I
>> recall one then here who explained to me, as if to an idiot, at the time
>> of the invasion of Iraq (I think) that if your principles don't
>> deliver the expected return then you change your principles.... And
>> there was the gentleman who declared victory on the grounds that quote
>> now a woman in Kabul can fuck whom she wants and get a hamburger... But
>> I digress)
>>
>>
>> So,no, not consciously Facebook. I am excluded from that company by my
>> rather real anger. What that achieves, I am not sure. I sat quietly last
>> night listening to lifelong religious pacifists discussing the Quaker
>> Peace declaration. Apparently it is 350 years on. They're still not
>> sure.
>>
>> I always say that I am not a Pacifist but am against violence, because
>> I
>> can never get it out of my head that sometimes it may be justified
>> though on closer examination many such examples prove too complex for my
>> simplicities. I won't tender possible examples I haven't yet abandoned
>> because I am bound to upset someone if I do.
>>
>> Anyway, the poem. I suppose it is constructed anger. I wouldn't have
>> used those words myself.
>>
>> I just took a line for a walk.
>>
>>
>> My starting point was the broch, of which I have book knowledge only
>> because I live too far south. I have, I believe, some work exhibited in
>> Scotland, in Dundee, and just decided not to go and smugly stare given
>> the high rail fare and my lack of time just now. And even then, half way
>> to the Pole Star, I wouldn't be near to brochs.
>>
>> Not only do they fascinate me, there is also the fascination of the
>> awareness that one doesn't know what's going on though really it isn't
>> that far back. I have enough experience, I believe, of standing in or
>> beside iron age remains and knowing I am ignorant of the known unknowns
>> to be able to transfer.
>>
>> Clear proof, say some broch commentators, of the need for defence.
>>
>>
>> No, no, say others. Just status building.
>>
>>
>> So I started from there and added contemporary paranoia!
>>
>>
>> I'll shut up now.
>>
>>
>> Toodlepip
>>
>>
>> L
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, February 23, 2011 15:49, Douglas Barbour wrote:
>>
>>> Facebook politics Lawrence?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I like the constructed anger here....
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Doug
>>> On 2011-02-22, at 11:21 AM, Lawrence Upton wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> None of us fully knows what is listening.
>>>> And none tells now what is in truth wrong.
>>>> Because the walls are strong. We feel sure
>>>> light is dangerous, the dark much worse. We’ve seen, when the door
>>>> is blocked and we are at home. Contraries engage; and those who are
>>>> outside fear that which is familiar to all. Beware! Befriend all
>>>> that would befriend you hot from an unintelligent ailing, playing
>>>> words; and arguing: attack talk
>>>> troubled by a nature of nearest death.
>>>>
>>>> ---
>>>> NAMING and CURSING: some live text-sound compositions
>>>> http://www.revistalaboratorio.cl/2010/12/naming-and-cursing-some-liv
>>>> e-te xt-sound-composition/
>>>>
>>>> ---
>>>> Lawrence Upton
>>>> AHRC Creative Research Fellow
>>>> Dept of Music
>>>> Goldsmiths, University of London
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Douglas Barbour
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>>>
>>> http://www.ualberta.ca/~dbarbour/
>>> http://eclecticruckus.wordpress.com/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Latest books:
>>> Continuations (with Sheila E Murphy)
>>> http://www.uap.ualberta.ca/UAP.asp?LID=41&bookID=664
>>> Wednesdays'
>>> http://abovegroundpress.blogspot.com/2008/03/new-from-aboveground-pres
>>> s_10 .html
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Language has unmistakably made plain that memory is not an instrument
>>> for exploring the past but its theater. It is the medium of past
>>> experience, just as the earth is the medium in which dead cities lie
>>> buried.
>>>
>>> Walter Benjamin
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> ---
>> NAMING and CURSING: some live text-sound compositions
>> http://www.revistalaboratorio.cl/2010/12/naming-and-cursing-some-live-te
>> xt-sound-composition/
>>
>> ---
>> Lawrence Upton
>> AHRC Creative Research Fellow
>> Dept of Music
>> Goldsmiths, University of London
>>
>>
>
> Douglas Barbour
> [log in to unmask]
>
> http://www.ualberta.ca/~dbarbour/
> http://eclecticruckus.wordpress.com/
>
>
> Latest books:
> Continuations (with Sheila E Murphy)
> http://www.uap.ualberta.ca/UAP.asp?LID=41&bookID=664
> Wednesdays'
> http://abovegroundpress.blogspot.com/2008/03/new-from-aboveground-press_10
> .html
>
>
> Language has unmistakably made plain that memory is not an instrument for
> exploring the past but its theater. It is the medium of past experience,
> just as the earth is the medium in which dead cities lie buried.
>
> Walter Benjamin
>
>
--
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NAMING and CURSING: some live text-sound compositions
http://www.revistalaboratorio.cl/2010/12/naming-and-cursing-some-live-text-sound-composition/
---
Lawrence Upton
AHRC Creative Research Fellow
Dept of Music
Goldsmiths, University of London
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