Angela,
With all due respect from a DRN newbie who is not a drawer but hugely respects those who are, my interest here is to do something to counter the difficulties that academics and others are finding in getting drawing accepted in the academic funding fist fight going on just now.
One thing this network might perhaps consider is a framework of how those whose output is drawing or who wish to use drawings as part of their design-as-research evidence, can best make their case in hostile management arenas.
For instance: other than exhibitions, what would the network designate as the top publications or other places to promulgate drawings that would sit beside the top-tier science type journals in peer esteem globally?
Debate open!
Regards
Dr Nina Baker
Research Support
Room AR332/F25 [1st floor]
Department of Architecture
131 Rottenrow
University of Strathclyde
Glasgow G4 0NG
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From: The UK drawing research network mailing list [[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Angela Rogers [[log in to unmask]]
Sent: 10 February 2011 11:25
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Subject: Re: 2011 DRN conference
Hello Greig,
I'm hoping that the DRN can become a scholarly respected forum, but not one that is driven by an academic funding agenda. A network of members that place reflexive and contextualised drawing (theory and practice) at the centre of their research activity.
I don't want the DRN conference to be relegated to an extended series of workshops, surely we can create something between that and the conventional conference delivery of individual papers; an open, critically enquiring and robust look at drawing research. Let's hope the new DRN host can get to grips with this.
Enough from me. A more international DRN can only be a benefit. Go to Lisbon, have fun, it's a fabulous city.
Best wishes
Angela
Angela Rogers
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From: greig burgoyne
Sent: 02/08/11 07:24 PM
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Subject: Re: 2011 DRN conference
Hi Angela, I hope that i am replying to your response, I have been following this debate closely and feel that there needs to be some kind of clarification of what the DRn feels it wants to be/ when perhaps it doesn't need to be clarified as such,but would benefit from priding itself on being a fluid notion of drawing and practice/
I have little interest with the design led programme and can't abide dry waxing academia of what drawing is or is for, but share with Bettina that you can't have theory without practice / I personally feel the democracy and immediacy of drawing would benefit for being intertwined with focused themes but broader aims and objectives of those themes only then can we all be involved and benefit from what is a precious resource and focus for all of us/ best greig
pathway leader BA fine art UCA/ UK
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From: Bettina Reiber <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: 2011 DRN conference
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Date: Monday, 7 February, 2011, 21:54
Hi all,
I agree with Lucy. The design focus of the UNUDCOM conference where academic papers regards drawing can be presented has made me decide not to submit a proposal; my research interest is oriented towards fine art and philosophy and has no direct link with design. My idea does simply not fit into a design conference. I regret this very much, I gave a presentation in Brighton and was very excited by the interweaving of theory and practice throughout the day. For me that was a very special format as we often have either practical workshops, exhibitions or academic conferences. I valued the approach of the DRN Brighton conference because it broke new ground by not just talking about a link between theory and practice but by being one. It brought out a great sense of community where every delegate was appreciated and could be approached as a theorist and a practitioner at the same time. That's most unusual and something I would love to see more of within the field of drawing.
After Brighton I was quite up for the conference in Lisbon, but now I don't think I will want to attend a conference on design with possibly a few non-design related papers on drawing in between, and neither do I think I will want to come to the DRN conference if it lacks the academic aspects we experienced in Brighton.
I don't mean to sound negative, it might be worth the experiment; maybe it will work well for others.
Best wishes,
Bettina
On 7 Feb 2011, at 19:38, Lucy Lyons wrote:
Hi Angela and Eduardo,
I have to agree that it seems such a shame that there is once more no open call for papers for a DRN conference. UNUDCOM is a design conference which will no doubt be excellent but drawing is not necessarily purely design orientated and having achieved an event in its own right seems to have become a thread in another. Apologies if I have misunderstood but there seems to be no opportunity for those of us who wish to propose papers and workshops for a Drawing conference without having to partcipate in a design conference.
Very best wishes
Lucy
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Subject: Re: 2011 DRN conference
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Date: Monday, 7 February, 2011, 13:37
Hello Eduardo,
As one of the organisers of the Brighton conference, I know that we too tried to do our best and I wish you a successful conference.
it seems that in this next stage of the DRN journey we are still finding our feet, what kind of community are we? It might become clearer when we know who the new hosts are. Speaking personally, I'm interested in finding new ways to generate and share knowledge about drawing, in all it's manifestations, practice-based/-led ?, academic, performative and various combinations of these. Other DRN members may feel differently.
It's cold, grey, wet and windy here.
Best wishes
Angela
On 7 Feb 2011, at 11:06, Eduardo Corte Real wrote:
Dear Angela,
I think that we can have the best of two worlds. Soon we will make an open call on workshops propositions for the DRN conference. We plan to post these in the conference blog that will be online soon. Then we will ask people whom are pretty sure that they will be here to express their interest in participating in the workshops to select a few.
As I sensed there are two complementary ways of being part of this Research Network. One that is very involved in action, practice as research and another more traditionally Academic. I'm in favor of both. We want to propose you as DRN conference something more active, participative and offer also the Academic recipient in the UNIDCOM conference. Maybe, with the internationalization of the DRN conference we must start to think about a conference with more days.
Maybe, in the future, we will speak about the Lisbon conference as a transition one.
We are just trying to do our best.
warm regards,
Eduardo
PS: I think this is on the general interest of the DRN community so I'm posting it to the List
On 07-02-2011 9:39, Angela Rogers wrote:
Hello Eduardo,
It's great that IADE are hosting the DRN in Lisbon with all the drawing activity that goes on in that city, however I think it's a shame that you have decided not to continue the open call that we established in Brighton last year. I may have misunderstood your email but the annual event for DRN members to get together appears to have been subsumed into the UNIDCOM conference. This is not to say that it won't be an excellent couple of days, I just think it raises some timely questions about the future governance of the DRN network.
Best wishes
Angela
----- Original Message -----
From: Eduardo Corte Real
Sent: 02/02/11 10:42 AM
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Subject: clarification on the DRN conference
Dear Colleagues DRNers,
After a few requests for clarification of list let me explain how things will happen in the DRN conference in Lisbon.
1. There will be NO call for papers for the DRN conference to be held in the 5th of October. We are preparing a program based on workshops/activities/discussion/conclusions.
2. There is a call for papers for the Drawing strand in the UNIDCOM conference open until the 6th of February.
3. Since this conference will have double blind review and publication of the full papers, most of you can apply for funding to travel here on that basis.
So if you are waiting for a special call for papers for the DRN conference it will NOT happen.
In a way, this is the only call for papers for the DRN conference.
If your paper is accepted in the Drawing strand of the UNIDCOM conference you will be automatically registered for the DRN conference and will enjoy the activities we are preparing for that day.
So, please, rush to your computers, and send me your 200 word abstract.
Best regards from an excruciating sunny Lisbon,
Eduardo Corte-Real
Dr Arch.
IADE, Lisbon
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