Hinchingbrooke has no CDU and has a GP service next door.
It also has a lot of bypassing protocols and small
numbers coming through (probably less than 35,000 pa) so I
can believe that it does make a loss
On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 00:54:24 +0000
Alan Montague <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> When Steve says "huge" he is probably not just referinng
>to their numerical prepondrance.
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> --- On Sun, 27/2/11, Steve Meek <[log in to unmask]>
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>From: Steve Meek <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Efficiency Gains in the NHS - aka cuts
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Date: Sunday, 27 February, 2011, 22:36
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> ED making a loss? really? I have been trying to extract
>accurate data from our trust for nearly a year now, they
>seem genuinely unable to tell us how much we earn them.
>It is not disputed though that we earn them millions -
>through our CDU. A figure of £6m was mentioned, probably
>an exaggeration but certainly we bail out the medical
>directorate, who make a loss of 1-2 million. Useful info
>when we come to fighting reductions in department
>spending.
> Its all just arbitrary numbers, of course, a result of
>back of an envelope 'costs' being ascribed to episodes
>and procedures, so justifying our huge army of support
>staff.
> Steve Meek
> North Bristol
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>From: Adrian Boyle <[log in to unmask]>
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Sent: Sat, 19 February, 2011 22:02:26
> Subject: Re: Efficiency Gains in the NHS - aka cuts
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> I work next door to Hinchingbrooke and within a couple
>of months Circle asked our hospital to take over the ED
>and Maternity services. These are the two departments
>that always make a loss for hospitals. Our hospital
>declined, partly because running these services on our
>own site is hard enough.
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> Adrian
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> Mike <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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> This next financial year, our Trust is expected to make
>a 7% "efficiency gain", which I believe has never been
>achieved before by another Trust (2 - 3% best to date??).
>Options being mooted are all Consultants on a maximum of
>10PAs, staff rebanding, redundancies, new business, etc.
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>> I believe Hinchingbrooke has just been taken over by the
>>Private Sector by a company called Circle. Staff and
>>assets are supposed to be protected, and all current
>>services will be maintained. Private Business obviously
>>would only take on this sort of enterprise if they smelt
>>a profit. I presume they will do this by renogiating
>>staff salaries, redundancies, and concentrating on the
>>more profitable services, etc. At a recent course I
>>attended, one EM Consultant who had worked in many EDs
>>and many countries, expressed the view that being taken
>>over by a private Company may not necessarily be a bad
>>thing, in that the best employer he had
> worked for was from within the private sector.
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>> Anyone from Hinchingbrooke lurking who could provide an
>>insight into what effect this private take over will have
>>on their ED, their hospital, staff and patients?
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>> I do not think we are alone, in that many other Trusts
>>face savage cuts which threaten their survival. It would
>>be good also to hear the views of others in the same
>>boat.
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>> Regards,
>>
>> Dr. Mike Dudley EM Consultant
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