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Re: Critical pychosis

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Terry Burridge <[log in to unmask]>

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Terry Burridge <[log in to unmask]>

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Sun, 16 Jan 2011 22:21:36 +0000

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I know I've mentioned this group a number of times already, but the Psychosis-Spirituality discussion  group offers some very interesting thoughts about their experience of MH services. The overwhelming view is that the NHS is experienced as a one trick pony. The view is that all that psychiatrists, at least, offer are drugs. It seems to me that this is an area that "belongs" to nurses who can offer a different kind of containment.

As to the  "right " view of psychosis , the danger is that once an orthodoxy is created,then we create an environment where dissent is viewed as heresy and witch hunts tend to follow.
The evidence about psychological interventions seems to be that it is not the model per se that works, but the quality of the therapeutic relationship that is the curative factor. I suspect that a comprehensive lit review would find work from all shades of the psychological spectrum writing papers etc that demonstrated the supreme and exclusive efficacy of their particular school.  

Yours
Terry
Sent from my iPad

On 16 Jan 2011, at 21:47, Stephen Tilley <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Thanks to Chris and Terry. Yes, to say there are different perspectives may be a truism ('fact', not 'face' in my earlier email), but Terry's point about 'my own' and 'other (misguided!)' perspective points to the questions of whether all perspectives are equally valid; if not, on what grounds are validity etc. claims to be made; what are the responsibilities of teachers in making and responding to (and marking) claims made in the academic setting, and evaluated in that context, in relation to claims made in practice? etc. These topics have been alluded to in other emails in this very valuable thread.
> 
> A student - whom I had taught, and supported when she articulated her own stance on how to understand and respond to the experience of people / patients in two practice settings in which her views conflicted with those of senior nursing stat - made me aware, in her doctoral dissertation years later, that the support I had given had limitations: in the end, she and not I had to live with the consequences of taking a stand (Dylan - 'everybody said they'd stand behind me when the game got rough'?).
> 
> Steve
> 
> Quoting Terry Burridge <[log in to unmask]>:
> 
>> I always make clear my own position on psychosis- but also make it clear that other ( misguided!) perspectives exist. I use the story of Red Riding Hood to teach about differing perspectives on the same story.
>> 
>> Yours
>> 
>> Terry
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>> On 15 Jan 2011, at 21:40, Stephen Tilley <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> 
>>> Dear all
>>> 
>>> I have been reading the emails on this thread. One thing that strikes me is the number of times people recommend that students get a sense of the variety of perspectives on mental illness / psychiatric illness, but do not say whether they (the teachers) tell the students what their (teacher's) own perspective is. Does saying there are various perspectives constitute a statement of face, a perspective? Steve
>>> 
>>> Quoting Philip Benjamin <[log in to unmask]>:
>>> 
>>>> Pleasure - if you are also interested in the more information about this
>>>> topic, you may want to to consider the looking at the ISPS.
>>>> 
>>>> See isps.org/uk/index.php and isps-us.org
>>>> --
>>>> Best Wishes
>>>> Philip Benjamin
>>>> Cell/mobile: +1 718 371 8560
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 2:59 AM, Halsted Angela (Central and North West
>>>> London NHS Foundation Trust) <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks for this email, the article reference is much appreciated as it fits
>>>>> with current service development work.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> 
>>>>> Angela Halsted
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>> 
>>>>> *From:* Mental Health in Higher Education [mailto:[log in to unmask]] *On
>>>>> Behalf Of *Philip Benjamin
>>>>> *Sent:* 13 January 2011 18:59
>>>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
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