Nothing heard also in Spain.
I think they are afraid we can react, compared with Americans?.
Regards.
2011/1/13, Alastair McIntosh <[log in to unmask]>:
> David ... just picked this up ... trapped in my spam box, otherwise I'd have
> responded in my previous message.
>
> I have been struck recently by how quiet this forum has been. It's not that
> there's not some interesting people on it or that, for a "crisis forum",
> there's not interesting stuff to discuss.
>
> My sense is that a helluva lot of us are stuck as to what we can
> meaningfully say that doesn't just sound like the virtual equivalent of
> speaking into the wastepaper bin. I've been working quite a bit recently in
> writing stuff for a forthcoming Ashgrove book on human ecology about
> postmodernism, and it does seem to me that during the 20th C we've seen a
> progressive drift away from grounding, at various levels - both physical and
> psychological (I would add spiritual, but we can leave that aside for now) -
> in reality.
>
> The people who form and moderate opinion are all living so comfortably,
> relatively speaking, that they don't want to lift the lid. I had a
> disturbing exchange recently with a good friend of mine and his wife. He's a
> serving army general. We expect to disagree, but not as much as you'd think,
> on war. What really surprised me was how animated he became about climate
> change, his wife too, playing out all the Christopher Brooker type of
> arguments and basically, a very intelligent scientifically literate man just
> not wanting to know.
>
> My sense in both this exchange and others similar is that most people can't
> face the contradiction of their lives. Festinger summed it all up in the
> 1950s with his study of cults ("When Prophecy Fails") - and how, the more
> that the cult failed the more the believers believed. You'll be familiar
> with his whole cognitive dissonance theory that came out of that. My sense
> is that we have to create space for people to live with their
> contradictions. The poet Alice Walker says, and I quote from memory, "take
> the contradictions of your life/ to wrap around you like a shawl/ to parry
> stones/ and keep you warm."
>
> If we can't do this with ourselves and others we force denial, and the
> problem with denial is that it's worse than hypocrisy because it blind
> people to truth. At least if you're not blinded to the truth you have the
> possibility of getting your bearings.
>
> I'd better go ... my wife's just back and it's late ... but I'm concerned
> about this stuckness - in the media, even, I sense, on this forum, and I
> wonder if you or others have reflection on this, or is there nothing else
> that can be done but to sit with heads in the sand? Is that where we're at
> in the human condition?
>
> Alastair.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Discussion list for the Crisis Forum
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of David Cromwell
> Sent: 13 January 2011 18:30
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Record warming isn't news
>
> Alastair asks of the BBC:
>
> " What is going on in their science journalism?"
>
> I'd remove the word "science" and just ask:
>
> "What is going on in their journalism?"
>
> Please forgive the plug, but see:
>
> http://www.medialens.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=93&Ite
> mid=51
>
> And it's not just the BBC. It's the Guardian, the Independent, C4 News and
> all the other news media we're supposed to regard as the most responsible.
>
> David
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Discussion list for the Crisis Forum
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Alastair McIntosh
> Sent: 13 January 2011 18:20
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Record warming isn't news
>
> You beat me to it, Bob. I had been watching out and was about to make the
> same observation. What makes it all the stranger is that early today the BBC
> had as the lead item on its science website evidence of climate change in
> rainfall in the English uplands -
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-12151866 They've since
> substituted a story about the Sun. Astonishing that they can miss out that
> the last year was the world's warmest equal, and the world's wettest ever.
> What is going on in their science journalism?
>
> A
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Discussion list for the Crisis Forum
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Bob Ward
> Sent: 13 January 2011 18:06
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Record warming isn't news
>
> Apart from a small brief at the bottom of page 25 of today's edition of
> 'The Guardian', the UK media ignored the announcements yesterday by both
> NASA and the US National Oceanic Atmospheric Administration that 2010
> was tied with 2005 as the warmest year on record.
>
> But it was picked up by the media in most of the rest of the world, even
> in the United States, where 49 of the 50 states are currently under
> snow.
>
> So what's up with our media? I've had a whinge about it here:
> http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2011/jan/13/uk-media-ignore-climat
> e-change
>
>
> Bob Ward
>
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> Grantham Research Institute on Climate Change and the Environment
> London School of Economics and Political Science
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>
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