Hi Pete,
I do apologise. Yes - the Social Tagging AP and Social Web AP are in
fact the same beast, confusingly renamed in my notes and therefore in
this email. You may remember that Ana was leading some research via
this group a couple of years ago? There was a call for participation
at the time (https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?A2=DC-SOCIAL-TAGGING;2d0a24a9.0701
)
Here's a paper from Elisabeta Catarino and Ana Alice Baptista on the
subject:
Social Tagging and Dublin Core: A Preliminary Proposal for an
Application Profile for DC Social Tagging.
Maria Elisabete Catarino; Ana Alice Baptista
http://elpub.scix.net/data/works/att/100_elpub2008.content.pdf
Regarding a potential name change/scope change, I can't give you an
immediate answer; that's something on which the group moderators would
probably need to give a joint position. I wasn't involved in setting
the agenda for the Pittsburgh session; somebody who was would
undoubtedly be able to provide a much better summary of the pros and
cons for this proposed name change.
My personal feeling on the matter as an observer is that the Social
Tagging Community has several very useful functions, one of which is
the sharing of information relating to the social web, and another of
which is a specific focus on tagging, including research activities.
Hence the scope is already somewhat variable, depending on the level
of involvement that the individual chooses to have. As an open
question, then; should the name reflect the wider area of interest, or
the scope of the community's research activity?
As I mentioned, though, I'm sure that any opinions on the issue will
be very welcome, on which note - many thanks for pointing to the
Social Web report, which looks very interesting.
Regards,
Emma
On 9 Dec 2010, at 17:06, Pete Johnston wrote:
> Hi Emma,
>
>> here are some notes from the Pittsburgh meeting.
>> -----
>>
>> Liddy Nevile began the meeting with introductory discussion, and
>> showed a
>> video provided by Ana Alice Baptista, in which Ana explained the
>> agenda of
>> the event, including the following: the need to discuss the name of
>> the
>> community, the possibility for future group work, and the current
>> findings of
>> the DC-Social Tagging application profile.
>
> What is the DC-Social Tagging Application Profile please?
>
> I've looked on
>
> http://dublincore.org/groups/social-tagging/
> http://dublincore.org/taggingwiki/
> http://dublincore.org/taggingwiki/RecentChanges
>
> and can't find any reference to it (the wiki doesn't seem to have
> been updated since 2009), and a search on the Jiscmail archive of
> this list for "application profile" didn't seem to return anything
> relevant.
>
>> It turned out that most participants were new to the community, so
>> the
>> discussion moved on to a general brainstorm about tagging: the
>> types of
>> tagging, possible uses, how to gather tags, and so forth.
>> Requirements of various use cases for social tagging systems were
>> discussed.
>>
>> I arrived somewhat late, I'm afraid, as I'd managed to double-book
>> myself
>> across two different conferences in the same hotel - but I must say
>> that the
>> conversation seemed animated and knowledgeable, and had already
>> resulted in several pages of notes!
>>
>> Reviewing specific agenda points:
>>
>> We discussed the possibility of a name change; there seemed a
>> widespread
>> feeling that perhaps the community might want to consider changing
>> their
>> name to something that covered the full span of the subjects under
>> discussion - for example, "Social Web Community."
>> Please feel free to let us know what you think!
>
> So I think the suggestion is not just for a change of name, but a
> change of scope for the activity of the group?
>
> I.e. the "charter" and "background..." text on
>
> http://dublincore.org/groups/social-tagging/
>
> refers very specifically to "tagging".
>
> If the suggestion is to change the scope to other issues within the
> "social web" arena, is there a proposal for which areas should be in
> scope? The "social web" is quite a broad space, I think.
>
> I guess this gives me an opportunity to highlight the recent report
> of the W3C Social Web Incubator Group
>
> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/socialweb/XGR-socialweb/
>
> which I think does a nice job of summarising some current
> developments/areas of interest, and making some recommendations for
> areas where work is required. It includes a short section on
> ontologies for tagging:
>
> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/socialweb/XGR-socialweb/#Tagging
>
>> We discussed a few possible questions of interest for group work. One
>> suggestion was the perennially important "How, in a professional
>> context, is
>> social tagging actually working?"
>> *If you have a question that you'd like to put to the community, or a
>> suggestion for future group work, let us know!* A challenge was
>> identified -
>> the need to 'clean up' user-contributed terms - sounds like an
>> important area
>> to take into account in future development for the SocialWeb DCAP.
>>
>> The development of a proposal for joint work on the SocialWeb DCAP
>> remains a priority area for the group - maybe Elisabete Catarino
>> might agree
>> to take the lead in this area?
>
> Is the SocialWeb DCAP the same as the Social Tagging Application
> Profile referred to above?
>
> Pete
>
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