Brian
I take RMS as a daily digest which means all in one email and I can quickly assess from the headers what I need to read.
Sue
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There are 25 messages totaling 6981 lines in this issue.
Topics of the day:
1. Peter K (3)
2. Fwd: Born-Digital: The New Archive, Part III | World Policy Institute
3. Britain could be jailed for data retention (3)
4. Facet Publishing discount offer to ARA members
5. Libraries, Archives and Information Services Apprenticeship Frameworks,
England - last opportunity to have your say!
6. Open letter to Records Management Community (9)
7. RMS North of England Group Meeting
8. [UNCLASSIFIED] Open letter to Records Management Community
9. Fwd: MoReq2010 Launch Marks Milestone in Cross Sector, Flexible Records
Management
10. Information asset register (2)
11. NSW archives inaccessible, says Auditor-General | The Australian
12. Saving our data from digital decay
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Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 09:59:31 +1000
From: Christine Holmes <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Peter K
I'm with Paula on this one - Let's all get posting if the fear of domination
is taking hold of you.. it's a space for all to discuss. If you don't want
to receive or hear the word then there is always an unsubscribe or junk
email. - Of which I never find Peter's emails junk.
Chris
Chris Holmes ARMA
Any views expressed in this message are my thoughts and mine alone.
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Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 9:56 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Peter K
I'm sorry guys but I disagree. Peters posts are invaluable and personally I
don't like the daily digest; too much to consume. I have Peter's emails
filtered into a folder for reading at my leisure, but that's my call.
And to the point of one person's dominance; that perception is likely being
felt because Peter is one of our most prolific posters, without his posts
and the discussions that ensue, there would be very little here at times.
If people are unhappy that the majority of posts are from Peter, let's get
posting ourselves.
Cheers
Paula
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Sent: Wednesday, 17 November 2010 12:47 p.m.
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Subject: Re: Peter K
Spam filters aside, i question any one person's dominance (and assumed
status) on this list. I'm with Brian.
Jen Parker
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Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 22:23:43 +0100
From: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: An Analysis of Twitter and Facebook Use by the Archival
Community
To: [log in to unmask]
Hi,
I would suggest that if you 'inbox' is being filled with spam then you do
not have the adequate mechanisms and rules in place to filter it into the
spam/junk repository where it should be routed.
As for the information coming from Peter, I find it both informative and
interesting and I appreciate his valuable collation and input on this
listserv
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[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Brian Laing
Sent: 16 November 2010 15:20
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: An Analysis of Twitter and Facebook Use by the Archival
Community
Hi Peter,
As interesting and useful as the information you provide is, could you
please limit it to a once-a-day mailshot to this list community?
My inbox is now being 'spammed' by this information 3-4 times a day, which
is making it increasingly difficult for me to filter out the useful nuggets
which you and other users often provide.
Please do not take this the wrong way - I am following you on Twitter and
find your feed most useful and interesting, however the frequency of your
communications through this list is becoming increasingly frustrating!
If this continues I will be forced to consider unsubscribing from this list,
however it would be a shame to miss out the other beneficial insights and
valuable networking opportunities it provides - the level of 'spam' filling
my work inbox is becoming unbearable!
Kind regards,
Brian
_____
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Sent: 16 November 2010 14:41
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Subject: An Analysis of Twitter and Facebook Use by the Archival Community
An Analysis of Twitter and Facebook Use by the Archival Community
Abstract: This paper discusses how the archival community is using
social networking services such as Twitter and Facebook as outreach
tools. The study analyzes the usage patterns of 195 individual and
institutional users over a thirty- two-day period during the summer of
2009. By focusing on the 2,926 outbound links posted to the services
during the period, the author shows that use is dramatically different
between the three test groups: archival organizations using Facebook,
archival organizations using Twitter, and archivists using Twitter.
The study shows that archival organizations overwhelmingly use the
services to promote content they have created themselves, whereas
archivists promote information they find useful.
http://bit.ly/97fmeM
Source:
http://adamcrymble.blogspot.com/2010/11/analysis-of-twitter-and-facebook-use
-by.html
hat tip to archivesinfo
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Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 22:54:00 -0500
From: Peter Kurilecz <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Fwd: Born-Digital: The New Archive, Part III | World Policy Institute
Born-Digital: The New Archive, Part III | World Policy Institute
The Ransom Center purchased its first born-digital artifacts in 2005,
when it acquired nearly 4,800 files from the digital media scholar
Michael Joyce. The author of the seminal work of hypertext fiction,
afternoon, a story, Joyce was an apt choice for Ransom Center’s first
digital archaeology process. In 2006, Matthew Kirschenbaum, National
Endowment of the Humanities researcher, visited Austin to experience
the Joyce archive.
http://bit.ly/bpEfn9
Source:
http://www.worldpolicy.org/blog/2010/11/16/born-digital-new-archive-part-iii
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Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 23:06:49 -0500
From: PeterK <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Britain could be jailed for data retention
Britain could be jailed for data retention
The UK Home Office is about to get dragged into the European Court of
Justice over data retention laws in Blighty. For the Home office a
rapid review of its Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act (RIPA) has
been undertaken and the UK government is rushing through a
consultation document to try to head off a potentially expensive court
case brought by the EC.
http://bit.ly/cZusp2
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Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 17:20:18 +1300
From: Paula Smith <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Britain could be jailed for data retention
Oh and no-one saw that coming did they! Sorry guys but I remember commenting as did many others at the time that this was going to happen!
Interesting to see the outcome
Paula
Sent while mobile
On 17/11/2010, at 17:07, "PeterK" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Britain could be jailed for data retention
> The UK Home Office is about to get dragged into the European Court of
> Justice over data retention laws in Blighty. For the Home office a
> rapid review of its Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act (RIPA) has
> been undertaken and the UK government is rushing through a
> consultation document to try to head off a potentially expensive court
> case brought by the EC.
>
>
> http://bit.ly/cZusp2
>
> Source: http://www.fudzilla.com/home/item/20841-britain-could-be-jailed-for-data-retention
>
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Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 09:03:50 +0000
From: "Dodgson, Paul" <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Peter K
All,
I use simple filtering and read Peters content when time permits. I am
not a slave to email (nor am I suggesting anyone is) and treat it like
mail in my in-post, I do an in-tray and concentrate on my priorities,
considering or deleting all others when time permits. Peters content is
valuable, hence me taking the time to respond to the list, to
colleagues, commercial consultants, public and private sector records
manager alike, to help them understand the value I place in such
information.
If you simply use some of the strong filtering controls most email
solutions provide your day will find your e-in tray a joy to behold! As
records managers I am sure we are all capable of such simple control
management.
Regards
Paul
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Sent: 16 November 2010 23:47
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Peter K
Spam filters aside, i question any one person's dominance (and assumed
status) on this list. I'm with Brian.
Jen Parker
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Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 22:23:43 +0100
From: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: An Analysis of Twitter and Facebook Use by the Archival
Community
To: [log in to unmask]
Hi,
I would suggest that if you 'inbox' is being filled with spam then you
do not have the adequate mechanisms and rules in place to filter it into
the spam/junk repository where it should be routed.
As for the information coming from Peter, I find it both informative and
interesting and I appreciate his valuable collation and input on this
listserv
From: The UK Records Management mailing list
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Brian Laing
Sent: 16 November 2010 15:20
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: An Analysis of Twitter and Facebook Use by the Archival
Community
Hi Peter,
As interesting and useful as the information you provide is, could you
please limit it to a once-a-day mailshot to this list community?
My inbox is now being 'spammed' by this information 3-4 times a day,
which is making it increasingly difficult for me to filter out the
useful nuggets which you and other users often provide.
Please do not take this the wrong way - I am following you on Twitter
and find your feed most useful and interesting, however the frequency of
your communications through this list is becoming increasingly
frustrating!
If this continues I will be forced to consider unsubscribing from this
list, however it would be a shame to miss out the other beneficial
insights and valuable networking opportunities it provides - the level
of 'spam' filling my work inbox is becoming unbearable!
Kind regards,
Brian
________________________________
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[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Peter
Kurilecz
Sent: 16 November 2010 14:41
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: An Analysis of Twitter and Facebook Use by the Archival
Community
An Analysis of Twitter and Facebook Use by the Archival Community
Abstract: This paper discusses how the archival community is using
social networking services such as Twitter and Facebook as outreach
tools. The study analyzes the usage patterns of 195 individual and
institutional users over a thirty- two-day period during the summer of
2009. By focusing on the 2,926 outbound links posted to the services
during the period, the author shows that use is dramatically different
between the three test groups: archival organizations using Facebook,
archival organizations using Twitter, and archivists using Twitter.
The study shows that archival organizations overwhelmingly use the
services to promote content they have created themselves, whereas
archivists promote information they find useful.
http://bit.ly/97fmeM
Source:
http://adamcrymble.blogspot.com/2010/11/analysis-of-twitter-and-facebook
-use-by.html
hat tip to archivesinfo
--
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Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 09:36:58 -0000
From: chris pounder <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Britain could be jailed for data retention
Data retention is not the only problem.
As well as data retention, the European Commission is considering infraction
proceedings in relation to the UK's implementation of the main Data
Protection Directive via the DPA AND the Privacy in Electronic
Communications Regulations.
The UK is recidivist when it comes to failing to implementing Directives
from Europe intended to protect privacy - well to be fair, the last New
Labour government was the repeat offender.
See for example: Data Protection Act fails to implement 50% of the
Directive? at
http://amberhawk.typepad.com/amberhawk/2009/11/data-protection-act-fails-to-
implement-50-of-the-directive.html
Chris
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Sent: 17 November 2010 04:20
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Britain could be jailed for data retention
Oh and no-one saw that coming did they! Sorry guys but I remember
commenting as did many others at the time that this was going to happen!
Interesting to see the outcome
Paula
Sent while mobile
On 17/11/2010, at 17:07, "PeterK" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Britain could be jailed for data retention
> The UK Home Office is about to get dragged into the European Court of
> Justice over data retention laws in Blighty. For the Home office a
> rapid review of its Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act (RIPA) has
> been undertaken and the UK government is rushing through a
> consultation document to try to head off a potentially expensive court
> case brought by the EC.
>
>
> http://bit.ly/cZusp2
>
> Source:
http://www.fudzilla.com/home/item/20841-britain-could-be-jailed-for-data-ret
ention
>
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Subject: Facet Publishing discount offer to ARA members
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Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 12:35:54 -0000
From: "Stagg, Emma" <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Libraries, Archives and Information Services Apprenticeship Frameworks, England - last opportunity to have your say!
Dear all,
We are currently coming to the final stages of our consultation with employers and training providers around the future model for apprenticeships for the sector. This is the last opportunity for you to have an input into their development to ensure that they are fit-for-purpose for you, your service, your employer and the future workforce – please see the message below for further information. Please contact Chris Warman directly (01732 763656 or [log in to unmask]) to get a copy of the documents described below and for an opportunity to respond.
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Emma
Dear Colleague,
Further to the e-mail that I understand you have received from Andy Morris at LLUK regarding the Libraries, Archives and Information Services (LAIS) Apprenticeship Frameworks in England, I am now writing to provide you with further information and to invite you to contribute to the consultation process.
You may have received a previous invitation to respond to an LLUK survey about this particular area of work and perhaps did not have time to provide feedback at that point. We are therefore taking some time to ask again, so that practitioners and other key stakeholders are given every opportunity to express their views.
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We would be very grateful for your response to these questions, either by e-mail, or by telephone if this would be easier for you. Full details of how to respond are given in the briefing paper.
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Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 12:33:31 -0000
From: Brian Laing <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Open letter to Records Management Community
All,
I find one person's dominance and saturation of this list, to be most
irritating, and inappropriate.
I am aware that this has caused problems in the past, that remain
unresolved; and whilst it is permitted to continue in this manner, I
feel that the effectiveness and reputation of this list is compromised.
In response to any criticism of the frequency of posts, it has been
suggested (perhaps even instructed?) that list members adjust their
settings to filter out particular mails.
Why should list members have to re-engineer their configuration of the
system to suit the needs of one member? I was under the impression that
this was an opt-in, not an opt-out service?
For the record - I have no personal issue with Peter. As I stated
yesterday, I find his postings both interesting and informative. I
personally choose to manage the flow of communications from Peter
through his Twitter feed.
My issue is simply regarding the excessive frequency of these particular
posts, and the assumption that others should adjust their personal
settings to accommodate one user.
Nobody else seems to have the desire or requirement to post multiple
times a day, and the fact that so many of you seem to have configured
your filters accordingly would suggest that you have no desire or
requirement to receive multiple postings per day!
Whilst one member is allowed to dictate policy over other users of this
list service, and whilst excessive mails ("spam" or otherwise) bother my
inbox, I no longer wish to be part of this community.
I will therefore be unsubscribing from this list.
Regards,
Brian
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chynnwys i unrhyw un. Cysylltwch efo Cyngor Bwrdeistref Sirol
Conwy ar unwaith. Nid yw'r Cyngor na'r un sydd wedi anfon y neges
yn derbyn unrhyw gyfrifoldeb am feirysau, a'ch cyfrifoldeb chi yw
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Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 12:59:42 +0000
From: Lawrence Serewicz <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Open letter to Records Management Community
I would question whether anyone dominates this list. I find it almost offensive that the thread and discussion has been handled along these lines. One person is posting material that helps other people. It helps me tremendously because it saves me the time trawling the internet to find it.
This is like getting the paper delivered every morning. Now, because of the upset on this list, I have to go down to the corner shop and find my paper or hope that they subscribe to it. [Wonderful]
At no point have I seen the poster (Peter K) trying to promote a service, hawk a product, or push an opinion alongside these useful posts.
What is particularly galling is that the people making these statements of dominance have not, in any volume that I can recall, posted or have raised issues of interest to other users. Whenever I post, I aim to support or contribute to the online discussion because that is how I learn. I hope that others can learn from the questions and problems that I face.
Perhaps if there was more discussion on this list about topics of interest then we would not have so much silence that makes the number of posts look excessive. Given the volume of email I receive and send each day, these are a small percentage and easily deleted or actioned once read.
No one is required to adjust their settings just as no one is required to read the emails. I really am amazed that this is causing so much difficulty on this list.
Is records management at such a state that the topic that generates the most email is about posts for information from one applicant?
Best,
Lawrence
Principal Information Management Officer
Durham County Council
Room 4/140
County Hall
County Durham
DH1 5UF
0191-372-8371
From: The UK Records Management mailing list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Brian Laing
Sent: 17 November 2010 12:34
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Open letter to Records Management Community
All,
I find one person's dominance and saturation of this list, to be most irritating, and inappropriate.
I am aware that this has caused problems in the past, that remain unresolved; and whilst it is permitted to continue in this manner, I feel that the effectiveness and reputation of this list is compromised.
In response to any criticism of the frequency of posts, it has been suggested (perhaps even instructed?) that list members adjust their settings to filter out particular mails.
Why should list members have to re-engineer their configuration of the system to suit the needs of one member? I was under the impression that this was an opt-in, not an opt-out service?
For the record - I have no personal issue with Peter. As I stated yesterday, I find his postings both interesting and informative. I personally choose to manage the flow of communications from Peter through his Twitter feed.
My issue is simply regarding the excessive frequency of these particular posts, and the assumption that others should adjust their personal settings to accommodate one user.
Nobody else seems to have the desire or requirement to post multiple times a day, and the fact that so many of you seem to have configured your filters accordingly would suggest that you have no desire or requirement to receive multiple postings per day!
Whilst one member is allowed to dictate policy over other users of this list service, and whilst excessive mails ("spam" or otherwise) bother my inbox, I no longer wish to be part of this community.
I will therefore be unsubscribing from this list.
Regards,
Brian
"Mae'r neges e-bost hon ac unrhyw ymgysylltiadau yn gyfrinachol, ac wedi eu bwriadu ar gyfer yr un sy'n cael ei h/enwi yn unig. Gallent gynnwys gwybodaeth freintiedig. Os yw'r neges hon wedi eich cyrraedd ar gam, ni ddylech ei chopio, ei rhannu na dangos ei chynnwys i unrhyw un. Cysylltwch efo Cyngor Bwrdeistref Sirol Conwy ar unwaith. Nid yw'r Cyngor na'r un sydd wedi anfon y neges yn derbyn unrhyw gyfrifoldeb am feirysau, a'ch cyfrifoldeb chi yw sganio unrhyw ymgysylltiadau. Mae'r Awdurdod yn monitro'r defnydd o e-bost/rhyngrwyd a chynnwys y rhain i ddibenion busnes. " "This email and any attachments are confidential and intended for the named recipient only. The content may contain privileged information. If it has reached you by mistake, you should not copy, distribute or show the content to anyone but should contact Conwy County Borough Council at once. Neither the Council nor the sender accepts any responsibility for viruses, and it is your responsibility to scan any attachments. The Authority monitors e-mail/internet usage and content for business purposes"
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Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 13:07:02 +0000
From: Lee Gardiner <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: RMS North of England Group Meeting
Dear All,
The next meeting for the Information and Records Management Society North meeting is due to take place on Friday 10th December 2010 and will be held at the NWDA Offices in Warrington.
We will be looking at the NHS Information Governance Toolkit including how to navigate it around it and why this approach is being used far beyond the NHS – particularly by Adult Social Services in the Local Authority Sector. David Bridge from Flintshire [and an IRMS Executive Boards Member] will be speaking to the group on the current IRMS and its future plans. Speakers and sponsors are still being finalised but I hope to post an agenda with full details as soon as possible.
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regards
Lee Gardiner, on behalf of the IRMS North og England Group Committee
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Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 13:07:47 +0000
From: iczn-em <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Open letter to Records Management Community
Ironically, I think part of this discussion comes down to a records
management question of do you want Peter¹s emails in one big summary
document, without appropriate headings as to content, or with the useful
titles, so you can recover the one you want.
I much prefer informative subject lines so I only have to open the headings
that look of interest to me. I¹m not a RM person, but have need to follow a
FEW of the topics on this listserver. I was originally annoyed at all
Peter¹s postings, but now have learned to just file them away. I only open 1
in 10 or 20, but those often turn out to be useful to me. Peter is not
dominating the listserver with his own perspectives per se, he is acting as
a conduit for information that the rest of us might miss. In the end, I
appreciate the service he provides. He is concise, gives a summary and a
reference for more info.
I would request that in general the RM listserver try to encourage posters
to have informative subject lines, content in the email that says what its
about (without requiring the reader to go to another link first) and a
reference.
Cheers,
Ellinor Michel
On 17/11/10 12:33, "Brian Laing" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> All,
>
> I find one person¹s dominance and saturation of this list, to be most
> irritating, and inappropriate.
>
> I am aware that this has caused problems in the past, that remain unresolved;
> and whilst it is permitted to continue in this manner, I feel that the
> effectiveness and reputation of this list is compromised.
>
> In response to any criticism of the frequency of posts, it has been suggested
> (perhaps even instructed?) that list members adjust their settings to filter
> out particular mails.
>
> Why should list members have to re-engineer their configuration of the system
> to suit the needs of one member? I was under the impression that this was an
> opt-in, not an opt-out service?
>
>
>
> For the record I have no personal issue with Peter. As I stated yesterday, I
> find his postings both interesting and informative. I personally choose to
> manage the flow of communications from Peter through his Twitter feed.
>
>
>
> My issue is simply regarding the excessive frequency of these particular
> posts, and the assumption that others should adjust their personal settings to
> accommodate one user.
>
> Nobody else seems to have the desire or requirement to post multiple times a
> day, and the fact that so many of you seem to have configured your filters
> accordingly would suggest that you have no desire or requirement to receive
> multiple postings per day!
>
>
>
> Whilst one member is allowed to dictate policy over other users of this list
> service, and whilst excessive mails (³spam² or otherwise) bother my inbox, I
> no longer wish to be part of this community.
>
> I will therefore be unsubscribing from this list.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Brian
>
>
> "Mae'r neges e-bost hon ac unrhyw ymgysylltiadau yn gyfrinachol, ac wedi eu
> bwriadu ar gyfer yr un sy'n cael ei h/enwi yn unig. Gallent gynnwys
> gwybodaeth freintiedig. Os yw'r neges hon wedi eich cyrraedd ar gam, ni
> ddylech ei chopio, ei rhannu na dangos ei chynnwys i unrhyw un. Cysylltwch
> efo Cyngor Bwrdeistref Sirol Conwy ar unwaith. Nid yw'r Cyngor na'r un sydd
> wedi anfon y neges yn derbyn unrhyw gyfrifoldeb am feirysau, a'ch cyfrifoldeb
> chi yw sganio unrhyw ymgysylltiadau. Mae¹r Awdurdod yn monitro¹r defnydd o
> e-bost/rhyngrwyd a chynnwys y rhain i ddibenion busnes. " "This email and any
> attachments are confidential and intended for the named recipient only. The
> content may contain privileged information. If it has reached you by mistake,
> you should not copy, distribute or show the content to anyone but should
> contact Conwy County Borough Council at once. Neither the Council nor the
> sender accepts any responsibility for viruses, and it is your responsibility
> to scan any attachments. The Authority monitors e-mail/internet usage and
> content for business purposes" For any technical queries re JISC please email
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Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 13:34:55 +0000
From: David Reeve <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Open letter to Records Management Community
A very sensible approach by Ellinor and one that I adopt too, I look at
Peter's subject title and either open it (a small number) and read or
delete it.
What is all this about domination of the list serv? What a very sad thread
this is indeed.
David
++++++++++++++++++++++++
Dr David Reeve
Corporate Information Manager
Records Management Unit
County Hall
Tel: (01305) 225191
iczn-em <[log in to unmask]>
Sent by: The UK Records Management mailing list
<[log in to unmask]>
17/11/2010 13:18
Please respond to
iczn-em <[log in to unmask]>
To
[log in to unmask]
cc
Subject
Re: Open letter to Records Management Community
Ironically, I think part of this discussion comes down to a records
management question of do you want Peter?s emails in one big summary
document, without appropriate headings as to content, or with the useful
titles, so you can recover the one you want.
I much prefer informative subject lines so I only have to open the
headings that look of interest to me. I?m not a RM person, but have need
to follow a FEW of the topics on this listserver. I was originally annoyed
at all Peter?s postings, but now have learned to just file them away. I
only open 1 in 10 or 20, but those often turn out to be useful to me.
Peter is not dominating the listserver with his own perspectives per se,
he is acting as a conduit for information that the rest of us might miss.
In the end, I appreciate the service he provides. He is concise, gives a
summary and a reference for more info.
I would request that in general the RM listserver try to encourage posters
to have informative subject lines, content in the email that says what its
about (without requiring the reader to go to another link first) and a
reference.
Cheers,
Ellinor Michel
On 17/11/10 12:33, "Brian Laing" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
All,
I find one person?s dominance and saturation of this list, to be most
irritating, and inappropriate.
I am aware that this has caused problems in the past, that remain
unresolved; and whilst it is permitted to continue in this manner, I feel
that the effectiveness and reputation of this list is compromised.
In response to any criticism of the frequency of posts, it has been
suggested (perhaps even instructed?) that list members adjust their
settings to filter out particular mails.
Why should list members have to re-engineer their configuration of the
system to suit the needs of one member? I was under the impression that
this was an opt-in, not an opt-out service?
For the record ? I have no personal issue with Peter. As I stated
yesterday, I find his postings both interesting and informative. I
personally choose to manage the flow of communications from Peter through
his Twitter feed.
My issue is simply regarding the excessive frequency of these particular
posts, and the assumption that others should adjust their personal
settings to accommodate one user.
Nobody else seems to have the desire or requirement to post multiple times
a day, and the fact that so many of you seem to have configured your
filters accordingly would suggest that you have no desire or requirement
to receive multiple postings per day!
Whilst one member is allowed to dictate policy over other users of this
list service, and whilst excessive mails (?spam? or otherwise) bother my
inbox, I no longer wish to be part of this community.
I will therefore be unsubscribing from this list.
Regards,
Brian
"Mae'r neges e-bost hon ac unrhyw ymgysylltiadau yn gyfrinachol, ac wedi
eu bwriadu ar gyfer yr un sy'n cael ei h/enwi yn unig. Gallent gynnwys
gwybodaeth freintiedig. Os yw'r neges hon wedi eich cyrraedd ar gam, ni
ddylech ei chopio, ei rhannu na dangos ei chynnwys i unrhyw un. Cysylltwch
efo Cyngor Bwrdeistref Sirol Conwy ar unwaith. Nid yw'r Cyngor na'r un
sydd wedi anfon y neges yn derbyn unrhyw gyfrifoldeb am feirysau, a'ch
cyfrifoldeb chi yw sganio unrhyw ymgysylltiadau. Mae?r Awdurdod yn
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for the named recipient only. The content may contain privileged
information. If it has reached you by mistake, you should not copy,
distribute or show the content to anyone but should contact Conwy County
Borough Council at once. Neither the Council nor the sender accepts any
responsibility for viruses, and it is your responsibility to scan any
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business purposes" For any technical queries re JISC please email
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Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 13:56:36 +0000
From: "Gadsden Anne (RNL) North Cumbria University Hospitals"
<[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Open letter to Records Management Community
I personally enjoy getting Peter's postings, I have found them very useful over the years I have been a subscriber to this list. I too have no problems with managing the e-mails that come through to me - my delete button does get hot with use some times, but not due to Peter's postings...
Anne
Anne Gadsden, Information Governance Officer
Information Governance Officer
Cumberland Infirmary
Carlisle
CA2 7HY
Direct Line: 01228 602186
Fax: 01228 634022
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-----Original Message-----
From: The UK Records Management mailing list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of David Reeve
Sent: 17 November 2010 13:35
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Open letter to Records Management Community
A very sensible approach by Ellinor and one that I adopt too, I look at Peter's subject title and either open it (a small number) and read or delete it.
What is all this about domination of the list serv? What a very sad thread this is indeed.
David
++++++++++++++++++++++++
Dr David Reeve
Corporate Information Manager
Records Management Unit
County Hall
Tel: (01305) 225191
iczn-em <[log in to unmask]>
Sent by: The UK Records Management mailing list <[log in to unmask]>
17/11/2010 13:18
Please respond to
iczn-em <[log in to unmask]>
To
[log in to unmask]
cc
Subject
Re: Open letter to Records Management Community
Ironically, I think part of this discussion comes down to a records management question of do you want Peter?s emails in one big summary document, without appropriate headings as to content, or with the useful titles, so you can recover the one you want.
I much prefer informative subject lines so I only have to open the headings that look of interest to me. I?m not a RM person, but have need to follow a FEW of the topics on this listserver. I was originally annoyed at all Peter?s postings, but now have learned to just file them away. I only open 1 in 10 or 20, but those often turn out to be useful to me.
Peter is not dominating the listserver with his own perspectives per se, he is acting as a conduit for information that the rest of us might miss.
In the end, I appreciate the service he provides. He is concise, gives a summary and a reference for more info.
I would request that in general the RM listserver try to encourage posters to have informative subject lines, content in the email that says what its about (without requiring the reader to go to another link first) and a reference.
Cheers,
Ellinor Michel
On 17/11/10 12:33, "Brian Laing" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
All,
I find one person?s dominance and saturation of this list, to be most irritating, and inappropriate.
I am aware that this has caused problems in the past, that remain unresolved; and whilst it is permitted to continue in this manner, I feel that the effectiveness and reputation of this list is compromised.
In response to any criticism of the frequency of posts, it has been suggested (perhaps even instructed?) that list members adjust their settings to filter out particular mails.
Why should list members have to re-engineer their configuration of the system to suit the needs of one member? I was under the impression that this was an opt-in, not an opt-out service?
For the record ? I have no personal issue with Peter. As I stated
yesterday, I find his postings both interesting and informative. I
personally choose to manage the flow of communications from Peter through
his Twitter feed.
My issue is simply regarding the excessive frequency of these particular
posts, and the assumption that others should adjust their personal
settings to accommodate one user.
Nobody else seems to have the desire or requirement to post multiple times
a day, and the fact that so many of you seem to have configured your
filters accordingly would suggest that you have no desire or requirement
to receive multiple postings per day!
Whilst one member is allowed to dictate policy over other users of this
list service, and whilst excessive mails (?spam? or otherwise) bother my
inbox, I no longer wish to be part of this community.
I will therefore be unsubscribing from this list.
Regards,
Brian
"Mae'r neges e-bost hon ac unrhyw ymgysylltiadau yn gyfrinachol, ac wedi
eu bwriadu ar gyfer yr un sy'n cael ei h/enwi yn unig. Gallent gynnwys
gwybodaeth freintiedig. Os yw'r neges hon wedi eich cyrraedd ar gam, ni
ddylech ei chopio, ei rhannu na dangos ei chynnwys i unrhyw un. Cysylltwch
efo Cyngor Bwrdeistref Sirol Conwy ar unwaith. Nid yw'r Cyngor na'r un
sydd wedi anfon y neges yn derbyn unrhyw gyfrifoldeb am feirysau, a'ch
cyfrifoldeb chi yw sganio unrhyw ymgysylltiadau. Mae?r Awdurdod yn
monitro?r defnydd o e-bost/rhyngrwyd a chynnwys y rhain i ddibenion
busnes. " "This email and any attachments are confidential and intended
for the named recipient only. The content may contain privileged
information. If it has reached you by mistake, you should not copy,
distribute or show the content to anyone but should contact Conwy County
Borough Council at once. Neither the Council nor the sender accepts any
responsibility for viruses, and it is your responsibility to scan any
attachments. The Authority monitors e-mail/internet usage and content for
business purposes" For any technical queries re JISC please email
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Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 05:59:06 -0800
From: "David T. Macknet" <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Open letter to Records Management Community
Agreed. I don't post much here, given, but I'm certainly able to manage
the volume of posts with no trouble whatsoever. I have not felt any one
voice to have dominated at all.
Regards,
-David
On Wed 17/11/10 9:34 PM , "David Reeve" [log in to unmask] sent:
A very sensible approach by Ellinor and one that I adopt too, I look at
Peter's subject title and either open it (a small number) and read or
delete it.
What is all this about domination of the list serv? What a very sad thread
this is indeed.
David
++++++++++++++++++++++++
Dr David Reeve
Corporate Information Manager
Records Management Unit
County Hall
Tel: (01305) 225191
iczn-em
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17/11/2010 13:18
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Ironically, I think part of this discussion comes down to a records
management question of do you want Peter?s emails in one big summary
document, without appropriate headings as to content, or with the useful
titles, so you can recover the one you want.
I much prefer informative subject lines so I only have to open the
headings that look of interest to me. I?m not a RM person, but have need
to follow a FEW of the topics on this listserver. I was originally annoyed
at all Peter?s postings, but now have learned to just file them away. I
only open 1 in 10 or 20, but those often turn out to be useful to me.
Peter is not dominating the listserver with his own perspectives per se,
he is acting as a conduit for information that the rest of us might miss.
In the end, I appreciate the service he provides. He is concise, gives a
summary and a reference for more info.
I would request that in general the RM listserver try to encourage posters
to have informative subject lines, content in the email that says what its
about (without requiring the reader to go to another link first) and a
reference.
Cheers,
Ellinor Michel
On 17/11/10 12:33, "Brian Laing" wrote:
All,
I find one person?s dominance and saturation of this list, to be most
irritating, and inappropriate.
I am aware that this has caused problems in the past, that remain
unresolved; and whilst it is permitted to continue in this manner, I feel
that the effectiveness and reputation of this list is compromised.
In response to any criticism of the frequency of posts, it has been
suggested (perhaps even instructed?) that list members adjust their
settings to filter out particular mails.
Why should list members have to re-engineer their configuration of the
system to suit the needs of one member? I was under the impression that
this was an opt-in, not an opt-out service?
For the record ? I have no personal issue with Peter. As I stated
yesterday, I find his postings both interesting and informative. I
personally choose to manage the flow of communications from Peter through
his Twitter feed.
My issue is simply regarding the excessive frequency of these particular
posts, and the assumption that others should adjust their personal
settings to accommodate one user.
Nobody else seems to have the desire or requirement to post multiple times
a day, and the fact that so many of you seem to have configured your
filters accordingly would suggest that you have no desire or requirement
to receive multiple postings per day!
Whilst one member is allowed to dictate policy over other users of this
list service, and whilst excessive mails (?spam? or otherwise) bother my
inbox, I no longer wish to be part of this community.
I will therefore be unsubscribing from this list.
Regards,
Brian
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efo Cyngor Bwrdeistref Sirol Conwy ar unwaith. Nid yw'r Cyngor na'r un
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Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 14:04:01 +0000
From: "Harrison, Iain" <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: [UNCLASSIFIED] Open letter to Records Management Community
I do not wish to go to great length discussing this.
It's really quite simple, as others have said already - set your filters, delete when you want to, read when you want to and manage your workspace accordingly.
I belong to several JISC and other discussion groups. I post occasionally when I have something to discuss/respond to.
I advise others to do likewise. Discussion groups are for just that-discussing things!
Iain Harrison
Information Governance Officer,
Information Governance Team,
Democratic Services,
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Coventry City Council
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-----Original Message-----
From: The UK Records Management mailing list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Gadsden Anne (RNL) North Cumbria University Hospitals
Sent: 17 November 2010 13:57
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Open letter to Records Management Community
I personally enjoy getting Peter's postings, I have found them very useful over the years I have been a subscriber to this list. I too have no problems with managing the e-mails that come through to me - my delete button does get hot with use some times, but not due to Peter's postings...
Anne
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CA2 7HY
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-----Original Message-----
From: The UK Records Management mailing list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of David Reeve
Sent: 17 November 2010 13:35
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Open letter to Records Management Community
A very sensible approach by Ellinor and one that I adopt too, I look at Peter's subject title and either open it (a small number) and read or delete it.
What is all this about domination of the list serv? What a very sad thread this is indeed.
David
++++++++++++++++++++++++
Dr David Reeve
Corporate Information Manager
Records Management Unit
County Hall
Tel: (01305) 225191
iczn-em <[log in to unmask]>
Sent by: The UK Records Management mailing list <[log in to unmask]>
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Please respond to
iczn-em <[log in to unmask]>
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Ironically, I think part of this discussion comes down to a records management question of do you want Peter?s emails in one big summary document, without appropriate headings as to content, or with the useful titles, so you can recover the one you want.
I much prefer informative subject lines so I only have to open the headings that look of interest to me. I?m not a RM person, but have need to follow a FEW of the topics on this listserver. I was originally annoyed at all Peter?s postings, but now have learned to just file them away. I only open 1 in 10 or 20, but those often turn out to be useful to me.
Peter is not dominating the listserver with his own perspectives per se, he is acting as a conduit for information that the rest of us might miss.
In the end, I appreciate the service he provides. He is concise, gives a summary and a reference for more info.
I would request that in general the RM listserver try to encourage posters to have informative subject lines, content in the email that says what its about (without requiring the reader to go to another link first) and a reference.
Cheers,
Ellinor Michel
On 17/11/10 12:33, "Brian Laing" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
All,
I find one person?s dominance and saturation of this list, to be most irritating, and inappropriate.
I am aware that this has caused problems in the past, that remain unresolved; and whilst it is permitted to continue in this manner, I feel that the effectiveness and reputation of this list is compromised.
In response to any criticism of the frequency of posts, it has been suggested (perhaps even instructed?) that list members adjust their settings to filter out particular mails.
Why should list members have to re-engineer their configuration of the system to suit the needs of one member? I was under the impression that this was an opt-in, not an opt-out service?
For the record ? I have no personal issue with Peter. As I stated yesterday, I find his postings both interesting and informative. I personally choose to manage the flow of communications from Peter through his Twitter feed.
My issue is simply regarding the excessive frequency of these particular posts, and the assumption that others should adjust their personal settings to accommodate one user.
Nobody else seems to have the desire or requirement to post multiple times a day, and the fact that so many of you seem to have configured your filters accordingly would suggest that you have no desire or requirement to receive multiple postings per day!
Whilst one member is allowed to dictate policy over other users of this list service, and whilst excessive mails (?spam? or otherwise) bother my inbox, I no longer wish to be part of this community.
I will therefore be unsubscribing from this list.
Regards,
Brian
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Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 09:05:45 -0500
From: Peter Kurilecz <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Fwd: MoReq2010 Launch Marks Milestone in Cross Sector, Flexible Records Management
MoReq2010 Launch Marks Milestone in Cross Sector, Flexible Records
Management
The DLM Forum, a European Commission sponsored body, today announced
the availability of the final draft of the MoReq2010 specification for
electronic records management systems (ERMS), following extensive
public consultation. There will now be a final public consultation and
expert review of the draft, with the final specification being
published in December 2010.
http://bit.ly/ddueF6
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http://www.realwire.com/releases/MoReq2010-Launch-Marks-Milestone-in-Cross-Sector-Flexible-Records-Management
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Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 14:06:24 +0000
From: "liz allsopp (RRes-Roth)" <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Open letter to Records Management Community
Since Brian Laing has now presumably left in a huff, and most other people seem to take the sensible view that Peter's emails are useful and easily managed, please could we now quietly abandon this thread?
Best wishes,
Liz
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-----Original Message-----
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Sent: 17 November 2010 13:57
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Open letter to Records Management Community
I personally enjoy getting Peter's postings, I have found them very useful over the years I have been a subscriber to this list. I too have no problems with managing the e-mails that come through to me - my delete button does get hot with use some times, but not due to Peter's postings...
Anne
Anne Gadsden, Information Governance Officer
Information Governance Officer
Cumberland Infirmary
Carlisle
CA2 7HY
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Fax: 01228 634022
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From: The UK Records Management mailing list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of David Reeve
Sent: 17 November 2010 13:35
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Open letter to Records Management Community
A very sensible approach by Ellinor and one that I adopt too, I look at Peter's subject title and either open it (a small number) and read or delete it.
What is all this about domination of the list serv? What a very sad thread this is indeed.
David
++++++++++++++++++++++++
Dr David Reeve
Corporate Information Manager
Records Management Unit
County Hall
Tel: (01305) 225191
iczn-em <[log in to unmask]>
Sent by: The UK Records Management mailing list <[log in to unmask]>
17/11/2010 13:18
Please respond to
iczn-em <[log in to unmask]>
To
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Re: Open letter to Records Management Community
Ironically, I think part of this discussion comes down to a records management question of do you want Peter?s emails in one big summary document, without appropriate headings as to content, or with the useful titles, so you can recover the one you want.
I much prefer informative subject lines so I only have to open the headings that look of interest to me. I?m not a RM person, but have need to follow a FEW of the topics on this listserver. I was originally annoyed at all Peter?s postings, but now have learned to just file them away. I only open 1 in 10 or 20, but those often turn out to be useful to me.
Peter is not dominating the listserver with his own perspectives per se, he is acting as a conduit for information that the rest of us might miss.
In the end, I appreciate the service he provides. He is concise, gives a summary and a reference for more info.
I would request that in general the RM listserver try to encourage posters to have informative subject lines, content in the email that says what its about (without requiring the reader to go to another link first) and a reference.
Cheers,
Ellinor Michel
On 17/11/10 12:33, "Brian Laing" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
All,
I find one person?s dominance and saturation of this list, to be most irritating, and inappropriate.
I am aware that this has caused problems in the past, that remain unresolved; and whilst it is permitted to continue in this manner, I feel that the effectiveness and reputation of this list is compromised.
In response to any criticism of the frequency of posts, it has been suggested (perhaps even instructed?) that list members adjust their settings to filter out particular mails.
Why should list members have to re-engineer their configuration of the system to suit the needs of one member? I was under the impression that this was an opt-in, not an opt-out service?
For the record ? I have no personal issue with Peter. As I stated
yesterday, I find his postings both interesting and informative. I
personally choose to manage the flow of communications from Peter through
his Twitter feed.
My issue is simply regarding the excessive frequency of these particular
posts, and the assumption that others should adjust their personal
settings to accommodate one user.
Nobody else seems to have the desire or requirement to post multiple times
a day, and the fact that so many of you seem to have configured your
filters accordingly would suggest that you have no desire or requirement
to receive multiple postings per day!
Whilst one member is allowed to dictate policy over other users of this
list service, and whilst excessive mails (?spam? or otherwise) bother my
inbox, I no longer wish to be part of this community.
I will therefore be unsubscribing from this list.
Regards,
Brian
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gwybodaeth freintiedig. Os yw'r neges hon wedi eich cyrraedd ar gam, ni
ddylech ei chopio, ei rhannu na dangos ei chynnwys i unrhyw un. Cysylltwch
efo Cyngor Bwrdeistref Sirol Conwy ar unwaith. Nid yw'r Cyngor na'r un
sydd wedi anfon y neges yn derbyn unrhyw gyfrifoldeb am feirysau, a'ch
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Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 14:08:14 +0000
From: Carey Clifford <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Information asset register
At Brunel University we are looking to undertake a wide-ranging information asset survey which will include identifying all electronic data sources, the hardware, information content, owner, and paper resources held along with other questions.
Has anyone else done this and if so, what method of capture did you use. It is clearly too complex for an excel spreadsheet & we want to produce reports about the data, and ensure the information is updateable. If anyone has any hints or tips they would be very gratefully received. I can summarise information for the list if people want to reply off list.
Regards
Carey
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Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 09:33:55 -0500
From: Peter Kurilecz <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: NSW archives inaccessible, says Auditor-General | The Australian
NSW archives inaccessible, says Auditor-General | The Australian
NSW's State Records Authority is unable to archive digital records
supplied by government departments and agencies due to a lack of
"infrastructure", in breach of laws requiring access to public
records.
Despite former NSW Premier Nathan Rees committing to a common records
standard for email, webpage and digitised documents, the authority is
refusing to accept electronic material because it cannot access the
information contained within these records.
http://bit.ly/b3lEy7
Source:
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/australian-it/government/nsw-records-management-in-disarray-ag/story-fn4htb9o-1225955117171
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Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 09:57:44 -0500
From: Peter Kurilecz <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Saving our data from digital decay
Saving our data from digital decay
An old-school alternative to digital storage has a modern spin that
could save us from future information loss as technology changes and
today's state of the art devices become tomorrow's museum pieces.
http://bit.ly/9UyVMI
Source: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/11/101116072749.htm
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Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 15:45:29 -0000
From: "Bradshaw, Phillip" <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Information asset register
National Archives Guidance is a good starting point e.g.
http://tinyurl.com/2vbmjmz
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Subject: Information asset register
At Brunel University we are looking to undertake a wide-ranging
information asset survey which will include identifying all electronic
data sources, the hardware, information content, owner, and paper
resources held along with other questions.
Has anyone else done this and if so, what method of capture did you use.
It is clearly too complex for an excel spreadsheet & we want to produce
reports about the data, and ensure the information is updateable. If
anyone has any hints or tips they would be very gratefully received. I
can summarise information for the list if people want to reply off list.
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Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 05:27:38 +1000
From: Christine Holmes <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Open letter to Records Management Community
Im with Paula and several others on this one Lets all get posting if the
fear of domination is taking hold of you.. its a space for all to discuss.
If you dont want to receive or hear the word then there is always an
unsubscribe or junk email. Of which I never find Peters emails junk.
Chris
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Subject: Re: Open letter to Records Management Community
I personally enjoy getting Peter's postings, I have found them very useful
over the years I have been a subscriber to this list. I too have no
problems with managing the e-mails that come through to me - my delete
button does get hot with use some times, but not due to Peter's postings...
Anne
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Subject: Re: Open letter to Records Management Community
A very sensible approach by Ellinor and one that I adopt too, I look at
Peter's subject title and either open it (a small number) and read or delete
it.
What is all this about domination of the list serv? What a very sad thread
this is indeed.
David
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Ironically, I think part of this discussion comes down to a records
management question of do you want Peter?s emails in one big summary
document, without appropriate headings as to content, or with the useful
titles, so you can recover the one you want.
I much prefer informative subject lines so I only have to open the headings
that look of interest to me. I?m not a RM person, but have need to follow a
FEW of the topics on this listserver. I was originally annoyed at all
Peter?s postings, but now have learned to just file them away. I only open 1
in 10 or 20, but those often turn out to be useful to me.
Peter is not dominating the listserver with his own perspectives per se, he
is acting as a conduit for information that the rest of us might miss.
In the end, I appreciate the service he provides. He is concise, gives a
summary and a reference for more info.
I would request that in general the RM listserver try to encourage posters
to have informative subject lines, content in the email that says what its
about (without requiring the reader to go to another link first) and a
reference.
Cheers,
Ellinor Michel
On 17/11/10 12:33, "Brian Laing" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
All,
I find one person?s dominance and saturation of this list, to be most
irritating, and inappropriate.
I am aware that this has caused problems in the past, that remain
unresolved; and whilst it is permitted to continue in this manner, I feel
that the effectiveness and reputation of this list is compromised.
In response to any criticism of the frequency of posts, it has been
suggested (perhaps even instructed?) that list members adjust their settings
to filter out particular mails.
Why should list members have to re-engineer their configuration of the
system to suit the needs of one member? I was under the impression that
this was an opt-in, not an opt-out service?
For the record ? I have no personal issue with Peter. As I stated
yesterday, I find his postings both interesting and informative. I
personally choose to manage the flow of communications from Peter through
his Twitter feed.
My issue is simply regarding the excessive frequency of these particular
posts, and the assumption that others should adjust their personal
settings to accommodate one user.
Nobody else seems to have the desire or requirement to post multiple times
a day, and the fact that so many of you seem to have configured your
filters accordingly would suggest that you have no desire or requirement
to receive multiple postings per day!
Whilst one member is allowed to dictate policy over other users of this
list service, and whilst excessive mails (?spam? or otherwise) bother my
inbox, I no longer wish to be part of this community.
I will therefore be unsubscribing from this list.
Regards,
Brian
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Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 15:20:21 -0500
From: Peter Clifford <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Open letter to Records Management Community
I, too, do not look at every email. But at the titles and then at the emails I think
I need to look at.
Works well. Not broken. Do not fix.
Thanks for touring with us Brian.
rgards,
Peter C
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From: Brian Laing <[log in to unmask]>
To: RECORDS-MANAGEMENT-UK <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Wed, Nov 17, 2010 12:33 pm
Subject: Open letter to Records Management Community
All,
I find one person’s dominance and saturation of this list, to be most irritating, and inappropriate.
I am aware that this has caused problems in the past, that remain unresolved; and whilst it is permitted to continue in this manner, I feel that the effectiveness and reputation of this list is compromised.
In response to any criticism of the frequency of posts, it has been suggested (perhaps even instructed?) that list members adjust their settings to filter out particular mails.
Why should list members have to re-engineer their configuration of the system to suit the needs of one member? I was under the impression that this was an opt-in, not an opt-out service?
For the record – I have no personal issue with Peter. As I stated yesterday, I find his postings both interesting and informative. I personally choose to manage the flow of communications from Peter through his Twitter feed.
My issue is simply regarding the excessive frequency of these particular posts, and the assumption that others should adjust their personal settings to accommodate one user.
Nobody else seems to have the desire or requirement to post multiple times a day, and the fact that so many of you seem to have configured your filters accordingly would suggest that you have no desire or requirement to receive multiple postings per day!
Whilst one member is allowed to dictate policy over other users of this list service, and whilst excessive mails (“spam” or otherwise) bother my inbox, I no longer wish to be part of this community.
I will therefore be unsubscribing from this list.
Regards,
Brian
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Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 22:54:00 +0100
From: Bob Bater <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Peter K
I agree almost entirely with Paul. Filtering using rules is a great help. I
also use an Outlook add-in called SimplyFile, which 'learns' which folder an
email should be filed in, so that once read, a single click files it. I
would say it is 90% correct most of the time, and saves me a great deal of
time scrolling to the destination folder and dragging-and-dropping. But I
would nevertheless NOT describe my Inbox as a 'joy to behold' J
When it comes to email management, IMHO it is the recipient who must take
responsibility. Asking others (who? how?) not to send email is pointless
(spam excepted) and can only damage your professional horizons. The sender
sends it because she/he thinks you may be interested. They cannot know; only
the recipient can know.
And yes, Peter's input is invaluable. Roll on Peter!
Regards,
Bob
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[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Dodgson, Paul
Sent: 17 November 2010 10:04
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Peter K
All,
I use simple filtering and read Peters content when time permits. I am not
a slave to email (nor am I suggesting anyone is) and treat it like mail in
my in-post, I do an in-tray and concentrate on my priorities, considering or
deleting all others when time permits. Peters content is valuable, hence me
taking the time to respond to the list, to colleagues, commercial
consultants, public and private sector records manager alike, to help them
understand the value I place in such information.
If you simply use some of the strong filtering controls most email solutions
provide your day will find your e-in tray a joy to behold! As records
managers I am sure we are all capable of such simple control management.
Regards
Paul
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Sent: 16 November 2010 23:47
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Peter K
Spam filters aside, i question any one person's dominance (and assumed
status) on this list. I'm with Brian.
Jen Parker
_____
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 22:23:43 +0100
From: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: An Analysis of Twitter and Facebook Use by the Archival
Community
To: [log in to unmask]
Hi,
I would suggest that if you 'inbox' is being filled with spam then you do
not have the adequate mechanisms and rules in place to filter it into the
spam/junk repository where it should be routed.
As for the information coming from Peter, I find it both informative and
interesting and I appreciate his valuable collation and input on this
listserv
From: The UK Records Management mailing list
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Brian Laing
Sent: 16 November 2010 15:20
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: An Analysis of Twitter and Facebook Use by the Archival
Community
Hi Peter,
As interesting and useful as the information you provide is, could you
please limit it to a once-a-day mailshot to this list community?
My inbox is now being 'spammed' by this information 3-4 times a day, which
is making it increasingly difficult for me to filter out the useful nuggets
which you and other users often provide.
Please do not take this the wrong way - I am following you on Twitter and
find your feed most useful and interesting, however the frequency of your
communications through this list is becoming increasingly frustrating!
If this continues I will be forced to consider unsubscribing from this list,
however it would be a shame to miss out the other beneficial insights and
valuable networking opportunities it provides - the level of 'spam' filling
my work inbox is becoming unbearable!
Kind regards,
Brian
_____
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[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Peter Kurilecz
Sent: 16 November 2010 14:41
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: An Analysis of Twitter and Facebook Use by the Archival Community
An Analysis of Twitter and Facebook Use by the Archival Community
Abstract: This paper discusses how the archival community is using
social networking services such as Twitter and Facebook as outreach
tools. The study analyzes the usage patterns of 195 individual and
institutional users over a thirty- two-day period during the summer of
2009. By focusing on the 2,926 outbound links posted to the services
during the period, the author shows that use is dramatically different
between the three test groups: archival organizations using Facebook,
archival organizations using Twitter, and archivists using Twitter.
The study shows that archival organizations overwhelmingly use the
services to promote content they have created themselves, whereas
archivists promote information they find useful.
http://bit.ly/97fmeM
Source:
http://adamcrymble.blogspot.com/2010/11/analysis-of-twitter-and-facebook-use
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efo Cyngor Bwrdeistref Sirol Conwy ar unwaith. Nid yw'r Cyngor na'r un sydd
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