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Re: It's Henery the Eighth Agen Agen

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Lawrence Upton <[log in to unmask]>

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Poetryetc: poetry and poetics

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Mon, 8 Nov 2010 12:21:58 -0000

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Sniffing it?

Pouring it on tories?

A library for cats would be good

There could be a lending library for people of good character to allow
themselves to be borrowed by a cat; and a reference library where cats
could go to read about the achievements of other cats

[according to Saturday's Guardian insert, the Egyptian hieroglyph for cat
transliterates as MIEW - though that may have been wishful thinking given
that they didn't mark their vowels

L


On Mon, November 8, 2010 12:07, Patrick McManus wrote:
> Cheer up Lawrence there's always Superglue!!!
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Poetryetc: poetry and poetics [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
> Behalf Of Lawrence Upton
> Sent: 08 November 2010 11:15
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: It's Henery the Eighth Agen Agen
>
>
> There's a wider aspect to this
>
>
> Supermarkets in my area increasingly have an area that is automated, with
>  a grunt standing there in case we let the machines down
>
> I like to buy my goods - whatever they are - from a human being - who may
>  say "Oh that's cheap isn't it" or have a nice day etc... Sometimes it
> pleases me, sometimes it annoys me; but it's a live presence
>
> and the trains are driven by people who press a button to get a recording
>  to tell you where they are, why they've stopped etc
>
> I much prefer the annoyed voice saying "Well they haven't told me
> anything so I don't know any better than you why we're standing here"
>
> and so on
>
> It all saves time training (unquote) people and that's money
>
>
> Yesterday I found myself looking at tinned fish in the supermarket and
> noticed that the price for 100 gms derived from the tin price for 120 gms
> was higher.... I checked other items and found the same thing, randomly
> spread among rational labellings
>
> That's quite serious. I often rely on those summaries, in between working
>  out how much salt there in something from the figures for 1/3 of it
> (honestly they're just trying to be helpful); so I thought I'd tell
> someone...
>
> And then there came into my head that Kafka story of trying to get out of
>  a big city; and no matter how hard you work, there's always another
> street, you're never there
>
> and I couldn't imagine finding anyone who was likely to be able to grasp
> and hold the concept
>
> Resistance is useless
>
>
> L
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, November 6, 2010 16:43, Mark Weiss wrote:
>
>> Mary Beard, professor of Classics at Newnham
>> College, Cambridge, argued in defence of
>> libraries, which she said were "infinitely more pleasurable in every
>> possible way" than digital resources.
>>
>> "Real libraries have librarians. Librarians beat
>> a virtual help desk hands down every time," she said.
>>
>> Libraries were also social places where she had
>> been known not only to eat, but also to have sex and get drunk. A
>> virtual library "just isn't sexy", she said.
>>
>>
>> My kind of woman.
>>
>>
>>
>> At 07:26 AM 11/6/2010, you wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Drat. It works in Facebook and I tried it out in the mail before
>>> posting - try this:
>>>
>>> http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/story.asp?sectioncode=26&storyc
>>> od e=414052&c=1
>>>
>>> or if not go to http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/ click 'more
>>> news' and look for a story dated 4th November called 'Time to shelve
>>> the book habit'
>>>
>>> On 6 November 2010 11:12, Roger Collett <[log in to unmask]>
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Yeah, but it's been imprisoned. I can't open the link anyway.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Roger Collett
>>>> Arrowhead Press
>>>> http://www.arrowheadpress.co.uk/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> --
>>> --------
>>>
>>>
>>>> "Imagination is the one weapon in the war against reality."
>>>> Jules de Gaultier
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Bircumshaw" <
>>>> [log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent:
>>>> Saturday, November 06, 2010 11:09 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: It's Henery the Eighth Agen Agen
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hmmm ...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> historically inapt.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 6 November 2010 10:35, Roger Collett
>>>>> <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hmmm....
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> I think this could do with a dose of The Spanish Inquisition.
>>>>>> "You never expect The Spanish Inquisition!!!"
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Roger Collett
>>>>>> Arrowhead Press
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.arrowheadpress.co.uk/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> --
>>> --------
>>>
>>>
>>>>>> "Imagination is the one weapon in the war against reality."
>>>>>> Jules de Gaultier
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Bircumshaw" <
>>>>>> [log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent:
>>>>>> Saturday, November 06, 2010 8:36 AM
>>>>>> Subject: It's Henery the Eighth Agen Agen
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Scene: A Monty Python launderette which is also a domestic
>>>>>> living room. On
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> a sofa sit Terry Jones and Eric Idle in drag as
>>>>>>> hair-piled-high housewives with aprons, egg-stained cardigans
>>>>>>> and rolling pins.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Housewife One (con falsetto) : 'I'm sick of all this
>>>>>>> Jean-Paul
>>>>>>> Sartre,
>>>>>>> what's on the box?' (looking at a washing machine) Housewife
>>>>>>> Two
>>>>>>> (tweaking moustache, basso profundo) : ' Just Bloody
>>>>>>> Repeats.
>>>>>>> As Joyce said ' (voice changing to falsetto) 'History is the
>>>>>>> nightmare from which I am trying to awake. Or ...' (both in
>>>>>>> unison): 'It's - Yet Again - The Dissolution of The
>>>>>>> Monasteries
>>>>>>> Show' :
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/story.asp?storycode=41
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> (David Joseph) The Brothers Bircumshaw
>>>>>>> "Every old house was scaffolding once/And workmen whistling"
>>>>>>> Website and A Chide's Alphabet
>>>>>>> http://www.staplednapkin.org.uk
>>>>>>> The Animal Subsides
>>>>>>> http://www.arrowheadpress.co.uk/books/animal.html
>>>>>>> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/david.bircumshaw
>>>>>>> twitter: http://twitter.com/bucketshave
>>>>>>> blog: http://groggydays.blogspot.com/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> (David Joseph) The Brothers Bircumshaw
>>>>> "Every old house was scaffolding once/And workmen whistling"
>>>>> Website and A Chide's Alphabet
>>>>> http://www.staplednapkin.org.uk
>>>>> The Animal Subsides
>>>>> http://www.arrowheadpress.co.uk/books/animal.html
>>>>> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/david.bircumshaw
>>>>> twitter: http://twitter.com/bucketshave
>>>>> blog: http://groggydays.blogspot.com/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> (David Joseph) The Brothers Bircumshaw
>>> "Every old house was scaffolding once/And workmen whistling"
>>> Website and A Chide's Alphabet
>>> http://www.staplednapkin.org.uk
>>> The Animal Subsides http://www.arrowheadpress.co.uk/books/animal.html
>>> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/david.bircumshaw
>>> twitter: http://twitter.com/bucketshave
>>> blog: http://groggydays.blogspot.com/
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> New from Chax Press: Mark Weiss, As Landscape.
>> $16.  Order from http://www.chax.org/poets/weiss.htm
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "What a beautiful set of circumstances! What a
>> lovely concatenation of particulars. Here is the poet alive in every
>> sense of the word, and through every one of his senses. Instead of
>> missing a
> beat
>> or a part, Weiss' fragments are like Chekhov's short stories-the more
>> that gets left out, the more they seem to contain. One can hear echoes
>> from all the various ancestors...[but] the voice, at its center, its
>> core, is pure Mark Weiss. His use of the fragment
>> is both elegant and bafflingly clear, a pure musical threnody.[it] opens
>> a window, not only into a mind, but a person, a personality, this human
>> figure at the emotional center of the poem."
>>
>> M.G. Stephens, in Jacket.
>> http://jacketmagazine.com/40/r-weiss-rb-stephens.shtml
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Three poems in Volume 4 Issue 1 'Peripatetica: The Poetics of Walking':
> http://www.landscapeandlanguagecentre.au.com/current_journal.html
> *
> http://www.cordite.org.au/poetry/creativecommons/poems-for-ivor-cutler-3
> http://www.cordite.org.au/poetry/cc-the-remixes/the-man-who-finds-himself-
> am using
>
>
> "This is not a time for foolery, or compliments. It may be that both of
> us are within a few minutes of death... And I, at any rate, don't propose
> to die with polite insincerities in my mouth. " C S Lewis - That Hideous
> Strength
> ---
> Lawrence Upton
> AHRC Creative Research Fellow
> Dept of Music
> Goldsmiths, University of London
>
>


-- 
Three poems in Volume 4 Issue 1 'Peripatetica: The Poetics of Walking':
http://www.landscapeandlanguagecentre.au.com/current_journal.html
*
http://www.cordite.org.au/poetry/creativecommons/poems-for-ivor-cutler-3
http://www.cordite.org.au/poetry/cc-the-remixes/the-man-who-finds-himself-amusing


"This is not a time for foolery, or compliments. It may be that both of us
are within a few minutes of death... And I, at any rate, don't propose to
die with polite insincerities in my mouth. "
C S Lewis - That Hideous Strength
---
Lawrence Upton
AHRC Creative Research Fellow
Dept of Music
Goldsmiths, University of London

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