Same endearing sentiment either way.
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Ken Wolman http://awfulrowing.wordpress.com/
"All writers are hunters, and parents are the most available prey."
--Francine du Plessix Gray
On Nov 8, 2010, at 11:45 AM, Patrick McManus wrote:
> Diff source!!
>
> The British have a way with one-liners. Lamb's favorite comeback comes from
> 18th-century politician John Wilkes. After a rival yelled that Wilkes either
> would die on the gallows or of venereal disease, Wilkes replied, "That sir,
> depends on whether I embrace your principles or your mistress."
> http://illbesoberinthemorning.blogspot.com/
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Poetryetc: poetry and poetics [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
> Behalf Of Ken Wolman
> Sent: 08 November 2010 13:45
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: It's Henery the Eighth Agen Agen
>
> I have heard a story I can't document--about Gladstone and Disraeli getting
> into a shouting match on the floor of Commons. One saying to the other,
> "Sir, you will end you life either on the gallows or dying of a venereal
> disease." The reply: "The depends, sir, on whether I embrace you politics or
> your mistress." Can anyone verify the truth or falsity of this tale?
>
> Ken
> --------------
> Ken Wolman http://awfulrowing.wordpress.com/
>
> "All writers are hunters, and parents are the most available prey."
> --Francine du Plessix Gray
>
> On Nov 7, 2010, at 10:09 PM, Mark Weiss wrote:
>
>> All part of the Tory plan never to be elected again.
>>
>> At 06:11 PM 11/7/2010, you wrote:
>>> Actually I believe the new Jobseekers joint will specialise in teaching
>>> basic numeracy and, guess what word, yup, literacy. The librarians should
>>> really appreciate that. As well as the four week streetcleaning holidays
> now
>>> planned.
>>>
>>> On 7 November 2010 23:03, Mark Weiss <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Who can bring books with them to read while they wait.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> At 05:51 PM 11/7/2010, you wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Here in Leicester the former Central Library is going to become a
>>>>> Jobseeker's Centre, which will be very useful for the redundant
>>>>> librarians.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 7 November 2010 17:59, Mark Weiss <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> And all of those lovely buildings waiting for other uses! Imagine
> how
>>>>> many
>>>>>> skateboard courses would fit in the British Library.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At 12:22 PM 11/7/2010, you wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Library sales are brilliant but you very soon come up against the
>>>>> reason
>>>>>>> why
>>>>>>> public libraries are needed in the first place. While every time I
> go
>>>>> into
>>>>>>> our local vanishing asset I am reminded of old ladies who amass
> stray
>>>>>>> cats.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 7 November 2010 14:53, Mark Weiss <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On a seriuous note (when am I not serious?), there are going to
> be
>>>>> some
>>>>>>>> great library sales.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> At 03:25 AM 11/7/2010, you wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It sounds to me like a lot of interests see money is dismantling
>>>>>>> libraries
>>>>>>>>> and are determined to make it an 'inevitable process'. There
> will,
>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>> course, be no end of 'writers' after their slice of the action.
> As
>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> books
>>>>>>>>> disappear so the local laureates, book doctors and language
> workers
>>>>>>>>> thrive.
>>>>>>>>> I'm expecting the advent of Writers-in-Residence in Jobcentres.
>>>>>>>>> I suppose on the bonus side to all this in the long run there
> won't
>>>>> be
>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>>>> obligation for all poets to pretend to be left-wing so the
> natural
>>>>>>> animals
>>>>>>>>> can revert to their true colours. It must be such a strain on
> them,
>>>>> all
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> pretence, the poor things.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 6 November 2010 11:39, Roger Collett <
>>>>> [log in to unmask]>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Dave.
>>>>>>>>>> Sounds like the prelude to Bradbury's "Fahrenheit 451"
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Roger Collett
>>>>>>>>>> Arrowhead Press
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.arrowheadpress.co.uk/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ---
>>>>>>>>>> "Imagination is the one weapon in the war against reality."
>>>>>>>>>> Jules de Gaultier
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Bircumshaw" <
>>>>>>>>>> [log in to unmask]>
>>>>>>>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2010 11:26 AM
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: It's Henery the Eighth Agen Agen
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Drat. It works in Facebook and I tried it out in the mail
> before
>>>>>>>>> posting -
>>>>>>>>>>> try this:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
> http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/story.asp?sectioncode=26&storycode=414
> 052&c=1
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> or if not go to http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/ click
>>>>> 'more
>>>>>>>>> news'
>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> look for a story dated 4th November called 'Time to shelve
> the
>>>>> book
>>>>>>>>> habit'
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 6 November 2010 11:12, Roger Collett <
>>>>>>> [log in to unmask]>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, but it's been imprisoned. I can't open the link
> anyway.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Roger Collett
>>>>>>>>>>>> Arrowhead Press
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.arrowheadpress.co.uk/
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ---
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Imagination is the one weapon in the war against reality."
>>>>>>>>>>>> Jules de Gaultier
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Bircumshaw" <
>>>>>>>>>>>> [log in to unmask]>
>>>>>>>>>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2010 11:09 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: It's Henery the Eighth Agen Agen
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hmmm ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> historically inapt.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6 November 2010 10:35, Roger Collett <
>>>>>>> [log in to unmask]
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hmmm....
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think this could do with a dose of The Spanish
> Inquisition.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "You never expect The Spanish Inquisition!!!"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Roger Collett
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Arrowhead Press
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.arrowheadpress.co.uk/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ---
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Imagination is the one weapon in the war against
> reality."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jules de Gaultier
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Bircumshaw" <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [log in to unmask]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2010 8:36 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: It's Henery the Eighth Agen Agen
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scene: A Monty Python launderette which is also a
> domestic
>>>>>>> living
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> room.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sofa sit Terry Jones and Eric Idle in drag as
> hair-piled-high
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> housewives
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with aprons, egg-stained cardigans and rolling pins.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Housewife One (con falsetto) : 'I'm sick of all this
>>>>> Jean-Paul
>>>>>>>>> Sartre,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what's on the box?' (looking at a washing machine)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Housewife Two (tweaking moustache, basso profundo) : '
> Just
>>>>>>> Bloody
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Repeats.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As Joyce said ' (voice changing to falsetto) 'History is
> the
>>>>>>>>> nightmare
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which I am trying to awake. Or ...'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (both in unison): 'It's - Yet Again - The Dissolution of
> The
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Monasteries
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Show' :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/story.asp?storycode=41
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (David Joseph) The Brothers Bircumshaw
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Every old house was scaffolding once/And workmen
> whistling"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Website and A Chide's Alphabet
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.staplednapkin.org.uk
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Animal Subsides
>>>>>>>>> http://www.arrowheadpress.co.uk/books/animal.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/david.bircumshaw
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> twitter: http://twitter.com/bucketshave
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blog: http://groggydays.blogspot.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> (David Joseph) The Brothers Bircumshaw
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Every old house was scaffolding once/And workmen
> whistling"
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Website and A Chide's Alphabet
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.staplednapkin.org.uk
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Animal Subsides
>>>>>>>>> http://www.arrowheadpress.co.uk/books/animal.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/david.bircumshaw
>>>>>>>>>>>>> twitter: http://twitter.com/bucketshave
>>>>>>>>>>>>> blog: http://groggydays.blogspot.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> (David Joseph) The Brothers Bircumshaw
>>>>>>>>>>> "Every old house was scaffolding once/And workmen whistling"
>>>>>>>>>>> Website and A Chide's Alphabet
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.staplednapkin.org.uk
>>>>>>>>>>> The Animal Subsides
>>>>>>> http://www.arrowheadpress.co.uk/books/animal.html
>>>>>>>>>>> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/david.bircumshaw
>>>>>>>>>>> twitter: http://twitter.com/bucketshave
>>>>>>>>>>> blog: http://groggydays.blogspot.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> (David Joseph) The Brothers Bircumshaw
>>>>>>>>> "Every old house was scaffolding once/And workmen whistling"
>>>>>>>>> Website and A Chide's Alphabet
>>>>>>>>> http://www.staplednapkin.org.uk
>>>>>>>>> The Animal Subsides
>>>>> http://www.arrowheadpress.co.uk/books/animal.html
>>>>>>>>> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/david.bircumshaw
>>>>>>>>> twitter: http://twitter.com/bucketshave
>>>>>>>>> blog: http://groggydays.blogspot.com/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> New from Chax Press: Mark Weiss, As Landscape.
>>>>>>>> $16. Order from http://www.chax.org/poets/weiss.htm
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "What a beautiful set of circumstances! What a lovely
> concatenation
>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> particulars. Here is the poet alive in every sense of the word,
> and
>>>>>>> through
>>>>>>>> every one of his senses. Instead of missing a beat or a part,
> Weiss'
>>>>>>>> fragments are like Chekhov's short stories the more that gets
> left
>>>>> out,
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> more they seem to contain. One can hear echoes from all the
> various
>>>>>>>> ancestors...[but] the voice, at its center, its core, is pure
> Mark
>>>>>>> Weiss.
>>>>>>>> His use of the fragment is both elegant and bafflingly clear, a
> pure
>>>>>>> musical
>>>>>>>> threnody.[it] opens a window, not only into a mind, but a person,
> a
>>>>>>>> personality, this human figure at the emotional center of the
> poem."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> M.G. Stephens, in Jacket.
>>>>>>>> http://jacketmagazine.com/40/r-weiss-rb-stephens.shtml
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> (David Joseph) The Brothers Bircumshaw
>>>>>>> "Every old house was scaffolding once/And workmen whistling"
>>>>>>> Website and A Chide's Alphabet
>>>>>>> http://www.staplednapkin.org.uk
>>>>>>> The Animal Subsides
> http://www.arrowheadpress.co.uk/books/animal.html
>>>>>>> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/david.bircumshaw
>>>>>>> twitter: http://twitter.com/bucketshave
>>>>>>> blog: http://groggydays.blogspot.com/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> New from Chax Press: Mark Weiss, As Landscape.
>>>>>> $16. Order from http://www.chax.org/poets/weiss.htm
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "What a beautiful set of circumstances! What a lovely concatenation
> of
>>>>>> particulars. Here is the poet alive in every sense of the word, and
>>>>> through
>>>>>> every one of his senses. Instead of missing a beat or a part, Weiss'
>>>>>> fragments are like Chekhov's short stories the more that gets left
> out,
>>>>> the
>>>>>> more they seem to contain. One can hear echoes from all the various
>>>>>> ancestors...[but] the voice, at its center, its core, is pure Mark
>>>>> Weiss.
>>>>>> His use of the fragment is both elegant and bafflingly clear, a pure
>>>>> musical
>>>>>> threnody.[it] opens a window, not only into a mind, but a person, a
>>>>>> personality, this human figure at the emotional center of the poem."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> M.G. Stephens, in Jacket.
>>>>>> http://jacketmagazine.com/40/r-weiss-rb-stephens.shtml
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> (David Joseph) The Brothers Bircumshaw
>>>>> "Every old house was scaffolding once/And workmen whistling"
>>>>> Website and A Chide's Alphabet
>>>>> http://www.staplednapkin.org.uk
>>>>> The Animal Subsides http://www.arrowheadpress.co.uk/books/animal.html
>>>>> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/david.bircumshaw
>>>>> twitter: http://twitter.com/bucketshave
>>>>> blog: http://groggydays.blogspot.com/
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> New from Chax Press: Mark Weiss, As Landscape.
>>>> $16. Order from http://www.chax.org/poets/weiss.htm
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "What a beautiful set of circumstances! What a lovely concatenation of
>>>> particulars. Here is the poet alive in every sense of the word, and
> through
>>>> every one of his senses. Instead of missing a beat or a part, Weiss'
>>>> fragments are like Chekhov's short stories the more that gets left out,
> the
>>>> more they seem to contain. One can hear echoes from all the various
>>>> ancestors...[but] the voice, at its center, its core, is pure Mark
> Weiss.
>>>> His use of the fragment is both elegant and bafflingly clear, a pure
> musical
>>>> threnody.[it] opens a window, not only into a mind, but a person, a
>>>> personality, this human figure at the emotional center of the poem."
>>>>
>>>> M.G. Stephens, in Jacket.
>>>> http://jacketmagazine.com/40/r-weiss-rb-stephens.shtml
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> (David Joseph) The Brothers Bircumshaw
>>> "Every old house was scaffolding once/And workmen whistling"
>>> Website and A Chide's Alphabet
>>> http://www.staplednapkin.org.uk
>>> The Animal Subsides http://www.arrowheadpress.co.uk/books/animal.html
>>> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/david.bircumshaw
>>> twitter: http://twitter.com/bucketshave
>>> blog: http://groggydays.blogspot.com/
>>
>>
>>
>> New from Chax Press: Mark Weiss, As Landscape.
>> $16. Order from http://www.chax.org/poets/weiss.htm
>>
>>
>> "What a beautiful set of circumstances! What a lovely concatenation of
> particulars. Here is the poet alive in every sense of the word, and through
> every one of his senses. Instead of missing a beat or a part, Weiss'
> fragments are like Chekhov's short stories the more that gets left out, the
> more they seem to contain. One can hear echoes from all the various
> ancestors...[but] the voice, at its center, its core, is pure Mark Weiss.
> His use of the fragment is both elegant and bafflingly clear, a pure musical
> threnody.[it] opens a window, not only into a mind, but a person, a
> personality, this human figure at the emotional center of the poem."
>>
>> M.G. Stephens, in Jacket.
> http://jacketmagazine.com/40/r-weiss-rb-stephens.shtml
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