I agree of course that the service is more than the building, but without a
physical presence in a community that service is currently invisible to
many/most people.
15 years ago I predicted that the only visible presence of the future
service would be a kiosk in Tesco - in the hope that I wouldn't be proved
right!
If there were a really strong visible library presence online the case for
buildings might be reduced but....
Liz D.
-----Original Message-----
From: lis-pub-libs: UK Public Libraries [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
On Behalf Of Wylie, Alan
Sent: 02 November 2010 10:18
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: budget pressures
People do become attached to library buildings for some very good
reasons, they may have seen some of the new shiny glasscube libraries
that have been built in the last few years (a generalisation I know) and
want to hang on to their Carnegie etc, library buildings act as
important focal points within communities, and that they might believe
that when a library building closes or stops being a library then it is
lost forever and that the alternative provision offered, if at all,
might not be to the same standard. All very real concerns and ones that
shouldn't be dismissed.
Alan Wylie
(these comments are my own and do not in any way represent those of my
employer)
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From: lis-pub-libs: UK Public Libraries
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of barry george
Sent: 02 November 2010 09:36
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: budget pressures
Usual good sense from Frances - I also agree with Roy that there needs
to be a move away from merely protecting buildings because they are
there rather than protecting and developing the overall service. We all
know of cases where it would be perfectly acceptable to close a service
point in one authority when there is a good service point available just
over the border - hence the sense of taking the approach Frances
suggests of an overall national view.
Barry George
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From: Frances Hendrix <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask]
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 8:53 AM
Subject: Re: budget pressures
I think this debate illustrates the problem of multi agencies
aka Councils who are facing the cuts within a council, and competing
with those services that do have a 'shroud factor'! rather than an
overall Library Agency for all public libraries, who could look at the
whole network, and how best to make a blanket reduction from looking at
the whole picture of libraries., the figures, the distances form others,
the use of them and so on and so forth. This being the approach of the
police and the courts.
f
Frances Hendrix
Martin House Farm, Hilltop Lane, Whittle le Woods, Chorley,
Lancs PR6 7QR, UK
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From: Roy Clare <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 7:50 AM
Subject: Re: budget pressures
Good, we all agree it is important not to slag off
members of the public - aka 'campaigners'.
However we may disagree about what the Minister is
saying, as quoted by Laura: 'Library users will be right to challenge
where frontline services are closed if services haven't thought about
some radical efficiency options.'
Suggest we ought to read that as library services; not
libraries. Current debates about 'libraries' too quickly become
lines-in-sand about buildings.
Councillors count votes in terms of buildings; and staff
count jobs in terms of buildings. But people want excellent services,
which is partly about buildings, as welcoming civic spaces; plus easy
(free) access to all forms of published media, expert advice and
information, 24/7.
In some quarters a relentless, nimby-style focus on
keeping open buildings prevents a proper examination of strategic
opportunities. In too many places people are being denied library
services because other people want to hang on to buildings.
Too few decision-makers have the vision, appetite and
political skill to challenge and deal with this conundrum, which has now
become the biggest threat to the survival of sustainable, popular
library services in many places.
Roy
Roy Clare CBE
Chief Executive Officer
Museums Libraries & Archives Council
T: +44 (0) 207 273 1476/9
F: +44 (0) 121 345 7303
[log in to unmask]
www.mla.gov.uk
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From: lis-pub-libs: UK Public Libraries
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Laura Swaffield
Sent: 02 November 2010 00:10
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: budget pressures
I agree with Liz.
This is no time to slag off library campaigners - but a
time to explain your ideas, & the financial reality behind them.
If they make sense, & the campaigners can't think of
anything better, you can work together.
If they disagree with you, they won't go away.
What too often happens is that closures are announced
with little or no sensible explanation.
And the campaigners are dissatisfied with the quality of
the information offered to them, the quality of the financial judgements
made, the failure to explain what other options were considered and,
often (in their opinion) examples of mis-spending elsewhere that could
have been channelled to small branches.
The network has been so hollowed out that, in many
places, the branches that remain are a bare minimum to
give reasonable geographical cover.
Once a branch closes, it never comes back. People know
that.
To quote our esteemed minister (1 July): 'Library users
will be right to challenge where frontline services
are closed if services haven't thought about some
radical efficiency options.'
Laura Swaffield
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I think the point is that the current budget pressures
are threatening well
used service points, not simply the dwindling or
unattractive ones.
The network is seriously at risk, with the possibility
of entire communities
left without easy access to a library.
In which case a vastly reduced service might surely be
better than none at
all and could allow time for developing longer term
delivery and access
solutions in partnership with communities.
We should surely applaud and thank those campaigners who
care enough to
fight against closures, and work with them to find new
and sustainable ways
to improve services for all.
Otherwise, where will we find the friends and allies to
champion libraries
now and in the future?
Liz Dubber
From: lis-pub-libs: UK Public Libraries
[mailto:[log in to unmask]]
On Behalf Of Roy Clare
Sent: 27 October 2010 21:55
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: budget pressures
Oh, Liz, but this is happening already in scores of
councils!
Like many colleagues on this forum I can list service
points all over the
place that are being kept open by Ward Councillors keen
on their votes. As a
result, there are numerous examples of Cabinet-led
decisions to block
"library closures". These councils are therefore unable
to deal with their
infrastructure properly, with costs tied up in often
decrepit, unattractive
buildings that serve small and dwindling numbers of
users; and with patchy
services to other areas where new (and often rural)
populations are starved
of library provision.
This is a perverse situation, in which democratic
influences keep open some
service points and fail to improve services for the
population as a whole.
In many cases a better library service could result from
properly-managed
estate; with overhead costs better controlled; and with
a more strategic
approach than is enabled by the nation's existing
arrangements for local
government control of public library services.
The MLA has been saying these things for some time and -
in many councils -
receiving a positive hearing for our advice and support.
Once the MLA
disappears local government will be handling these
matters on their own.
Roy
Roy Clare CBE
Chief Executive Officer
Museums Libraries & Archives Council
T: +44 (0) 207 273 1476/9
F: +44 (0) 121 345 7303
[log in to unmask]
www.mla.gov.uk <http://www.mla.gov.uk/>
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From: lis-pub-libs: UK Public Libraries
[mailto:[log in to unmask]]
On Behalf Of Liz Dubber
Sent: 27 October 2010 21:32
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: budget pressures
Did anyone else hear the programme on radio 4 this
morning about
'parliamentary trains'?
These are train services which are maintained at a
laughably minimal level
(e.g. one service per week in one direction only!)
because it notionally
keeps the service open when the consultation process to
close it would be
far more costly. They are very little used and
uneconomic, but running the
train is still cheaper than going through the process of
closing the line.
While we face a prospect of numerous library closures as
the budgets for
next year start to bite, is there a germ of an idea here
for libraries?
Might it be cheaper to maintain a network of service
points at drastically
reduced number of hours, rather than face the complexity
and expense of
public consultation over closure ( together with the
likely high level of
public opposition that suggestions of closure usually
generate).
I'm not usually an advocate of such reduced opening
hours but this programme
made me look at them a bit differently.
At least the infrastructure is preserved for a possible
come-back in the
future.
Liz Dubber
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>I
think the point is =
that the current
budget pressures are threatening well used service
points, not simply =
the dwindling
or unattractive ones.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>The
network is =
seriously at
risk, with the possibility of entire communities left
without easy =
access to a
library. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>In
which case a =
vastly reduced
service might surely be better than none at all and
could allow time for
developing longer term delivery and access solutions in
partnership with
communities.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>We
should surely =
applaud and
thank those campaigners who care enough to fight against
closures, and =
work
with them to find new and sustainable ways to improve
services for =
all.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span
style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Otherwise, where will =
we find
the friends and allies to champion libraries now and in
the =
future?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Liz =
Dubber<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span
style=3D'color:#1F497D'> =
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> lis-pub-libs: UK
Public Libraries
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] <b>On Behalf Of
</b>Roy Clare<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 27 October 2010 21:55<br>
<b>To:</b> [log in to unmask]<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: budget
pressures<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Oh, Liz, but this is happening already in
scores of =
councils! <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Like many colleagues on this forum I can
list service points =
all
over the place that are being kept open by Ward
Councillors keen on =
their
votes. As a result, there are numerous examples of
Cabinet-led decisions =
to
block “library closures”. These councils are
therefore =
unable to
deal with their infrastructure properly, with costs tied
up in often =
decrepit,
unattractive buildings that serve small and dwindling
numbers of users; =
and
with patchy services to other areas where new (and often
rural) =
populations are
starved of library provision. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>This is a perverse situation, in which
democratic influences =
keep
open some service points and fail to improve services
for the population =
as a
whole.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>In many cases a better library service could
result from
properly-managed estate; with overhead costs better
controlled; and with =
a more
strategic approach than is enabled by the nation’s
existing =
arrangements
for local government control of public library =
services.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>The MLA has been saying these things for
some time and =
– in
many councils – receiving a positive hearing for
our advice and =
support.
Once the MLA disappears local government will be
handling these matters =
on
their own.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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[mailto:[log in to unmask]] <b>On Behalf Of
</b>Liz Dubber<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 27 October 2010 21:32<br>
<b>To:</b> [log in to unmask]<br>
<b>Subject:</b> budget pressures</span><span
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<p class=3DMsoNormal>Did anyone else hear the programme
on radio 4 this =
morning
about ‘parliamentary trains’?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal>These are train services which are
maintained at a =
laughably
minimal level (e.g. one service per week in one
direction only!) because =
it
notionally keeps the service open when the consultation
process to close =
it
would be far more costly. They are very little
used and =
uneconomic, but
running the train is still cheaper than going through
the process of =
closing
the line.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal>While we face a prospect of
numerous library =
closures as the
budgets for next year start to bite, is there a germ of
an idea here for
libraries?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal>Might it be cheaper to maintain a
network of =
service points
at drastically reduced number of hours, rather than face
the complexity =
and
expense of public consultation over closure ( together
with the likely =
high
level of public opposition that suggestions of closure
usually =
generate).<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal>I’m not usually an advocate
of such reduced =
opening
hours but this programme made me look at them a bit
differently. =
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal>At least the infrastructure is
preserved for a =
possible
come-back in the future.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal>Liz Dubber<o:p></o:p></p>
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