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Re: Intangible Presence

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"Alan Rayner (BU)" <[log in to unmask]>

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Practitioner-Researcher <[log in to unmask]>

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Mon, 25 Oct 2010 10:06:32 +0100

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Dear Phil,

Many thanks.

Meanwhile, Roy has persuaded me of the need to prepare a 'Natural 
Inclusional Glossary'.

I have made a start on this - see attached. Looks like it will be quite an 
endeavour.

Warmest

Alan

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "PHILIP TATTERSALL" <[log in to unmask]>
To: "'Alan Rayner (BU)'" <[log in to unmask]>; 
"'Practitioner-Researcher'" <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2010 9:58 PM
Subject: RE: Intangible Presence


> Hello Alan,
>
> Many thanks for sharing these great emails!
>
> Roy's response is a beauty: "I am getting quite sure that the notions of
> unity and wholeness are our own human impositions on a much more complex 
> and
> unpredictable flux of nature. They are our Apollonian order-seeking 
> impulses
> overriding the Dionysian wildness of life (and death).  Let's hear it for
> wildness!"
>
> Almost reads like an abstract for a very interesting paper!
>
> I love the NatureMoments initiative. It's gentle, well presented and
> engaging.
>
> Warmest,
>
> Phil
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alan Rayner (BU) [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Saturday, 23 October 2010 7:25 PM
> To: Practitioner-Researcher
> Subject: Re: Intangible Presence
>
> Dear Lee,
>
> Thank you very much. I do have a possible painting in mind, but whether I
> get around to it remains to be seen. Perhaps you could paint the image in
> your mind? I'd love that - real co-creativity!
>
> Yes, I think there may well be a relationship with prescience, which I 
> might
> describe in terms of an electrifying sense of close attunement, affinity 
> or
> rapport with my neighbourhood. It is especially strong when I experience
> 'NatureMoments' (see attached leaflets), when painting or writing
> poetically, when knowingly dreaming and when in the company of eager
> learners (including myself). I suspect it may be related to 'superchannel'
> formation (portrayed in the attached painting as a deep kind of
> connectivity). Some tell me that they sense an 'aura' around me on those
> occasions, and I have indeed experienced some kind of clairvoyance in 
> them,
> which I don't know what to make of. But it's not always a 'good' feeling.
> One of my most prescient dreams occurred in early September 2001, when I 
> was
> on a plane that was hijacked, flown into a vertical edifice and caught 
> fire
> - I woke with a sense of my skin alight.
>
> As you may know, and as the poems below themselves relate, I do these days
> have a bit of a problem with the language of 'wholeness' and
> 'connectedness', which I feel does not do justice to the depth, wonder,
> fluidity and openness of the experience, and indeed, for me, can colonize
> and stifle it. This is why I feel that 'natural inclusionality' reaches
> beyond (whilst accommodating and transforming) abstract 'holism' and 
> 'whole
> systems theory', and why I can feel very uncomfortable with glib 
> expressions
> of the latter (NB I'm not accusing you of this, in fact I feel sure that
> your intention is natural inclusional!!!), especially in the context of
> 'decolonizing praxis'.
>
> My friend, Roy Reynolds, sent me the following comment last night, which I
> strongly agree with:
>
> "I am getting quite sure that the notions of unity and wholeness are our 
> own
> human impositions on a much more complex and unpredictable flux of nature.
> They are our Apollonian order-seeking impulses overriding the Dionysian
> wildness of life (and death).  Let's hear it for wildness!"
>
>
> Warmest
>
> Alan
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lee Nicole Scott" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Saturday, October 23, 2010 7:50 AM
> Subject: Re: Intangible Presence
>
>
> Hi Alan
> i really enjoyed Helter- Skelter. I get an  incredible visual from it. 
> Have
> you painted it?
>
> When i was reading about presence in your article, there were bits that
> clicked me through to thinking about prescience. Without sounding wierd, I
> felt there was quite a strong link. I think this of this because when one 
> is
>
> well rounded, ok, when I am feeling balanced, whole, harmonious and
> connected  to the earth;  then i have 'presence'(i.e- other people can 
> feel
> my energy) . Then in this presence  space,i experience this foreknowledge 
> /
> prescience and it is a very good place to be. What do you think hey, what 
> do
>
> you experience?
>
> Happy days.
>
> Have a great weekend.
> lee
> ________________________________________
> From: Practitioner-Researcher [[log in to unmask]] On
> Behalf Of Alan Rayner (BU) [[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: 22 October 2010 08:40 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Intangible Presence
>
> Dear Geisha and Pip,
>
> Thank you for your responses. It warms me to feel that my expressions of 
> 'A
> gape in natural inclusional logic', through which the 'self' can breathe,
> can bring some respite in the face of oppression and hope for reformation.
> That is indeed the 'hole point', as in the poems written below during and
> just after the ALARA World Congress.
>
> Warmest
>
> Alan
>
> ----------------------------
>
> Inventure - Finding the hole in One
>
> To ask where's the gap in one's logic
> Is to find the logic in one's gap
> An entry place
> For breath to take
> In where there's warmth
> To melt the ice
> That binds the self
> The one in the many
> Or the many in one
> That calls itself collective
> In solitude
> Where there's no way to reach
> Out from within
> Or outwith in
> To where the song
> Can sing
> In resonant key
> Through the hole of reciprocal welcome
> Where the leverage point is agape
>
> .....
>
> Helter-Skelter
> The Return of the Native
>
> Imagine yourself
> Born under cover of darkness
> In the shade of an umbrella
> Pierced by peepholes
> Into an other-worldly radiance
> That shines on coralline ocean
> Lapping up the shifting shores of landscape
> Flowing in rocks and water
> Air and fire streams
> Breathed in and breathed out
> By life itself
> As endless variety
> In this place you call home
> That holds and caresses you
> With open arms
>
> But there, at the edge of your stare
> Where your home finds its limit horizon
> Glinting with cut-glass precision
> Is the baseline of prismatic structure
> Abstracted out of kilter
> A multi-story high rise power block
> Splitting apart between seven floors
> Each to its own paradox
> Confined yet connected
> Point to point
> By a dichotomous tree
> Inverted
> With bottom at top
> Bifurcating to lower orders
> With multiple entry points
> Where you can enter freely
> From abasement
> So long as you close the door behind you!
>
> Once inside this glass-cut space
> There's no where for you to go but up
> Beckoned by idealism
> Of social or economic aspirations
> Coloured monotonously
> Red or Blue
> Me or You
> Us or Them
> Here or There
> Each a cut above the rest
> Reached by ladders climbed assiduously
> To the point where worlds collide
>
> Far above the ground you left behind
> In a room where All presume to be One
> Suffocating as a Whole
> That claims from aloft
> To be more than the parts
> Beneath itself
> From which it ascended
> Only to bang its head
> Against the ceiling
> So near and yet so far
> From what was shut outside
> Less than a hare's breath away
>
> Yet, deep in the core of this prism
> Reaches the umbrella's shaft
> A focal passage
> Receptive to all who reach for it
> Without resistance
> Lifting from base to apex
> But not stopping there
>
> Instead emerging into slippery spiral gutter
> By way of which the native returns
> Whizzing gleefully down slope
> To where he and she belong
> Together as children playing
> In the light of darkness
> In the darkness of light
> Learning along the way
> That gathers before into after
> Continually
> With no need to get stuck in the prism
> That seems to cut a dash in space
> But can't.
>
>
> .......
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: geisha rebolledo<mailto:[log in to unmask]>
> To:
> [log in to unmask]<mailto:PRACTITIONER-RESEARCHER@JISCMA
> IL.AC.UK>
> Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 8:28 PM
> Subject: Re: Intangible Presence
>
> Pip,
> Thank you very much for your mail. Yes!! KIA KAHA  !!! Greetings, Geisha
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2010 08:17:49 +1300
> From: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Intangible Presence
> To:
> [log in to unmask]<mailto:PRACTITIONER-RESEARCHER@JISCMA
> IL.AC.UK>
>
> Dear Geisha and others
>
> Sad to hear what is happening in your country, Geisha. I know universities
> around the globe are under pressure - there are layoffs and union action 
> in
> mine, I know. But not on the scale that you're describing.
>
> I will add your situation to my prayer list!
>
> Kia kaha (Maori expression meaning 'be strong', hang on in there)
>
> Pip
>
> On 22/10/2010 5:08 a.m., geisha rebolledo wrote:
> Dear Alan and all,
>
>
>
> Thank you so much for  comming back to the web. I was already wondering 
> what
>
> happen ?? It is a long time since I heard from you all .... You made me
> happy again after this mail.... remember my context is full with 
> situations
> that  , specially in Caracas, encourege very little  deep thinking like 
> this
>
> from Alan... For example my University is on a month  strike because the
> government  reduce our salaryes and owns  a debt from 2008, so there is no
> salary payments,  we are in a real mess...... so to find this paper on the
> intangible is wonderful... If i could say something about it Alan  I could
> start by telling you that thanks to the intangible we manage to survive in
> this context  at the moment... people in order to avoid the problems,
> specially those with socialistic  government , also  the 30.0 year 
> inflation
>
> , the killings arround, etc., turn to the intangible as the only way... 
> For
> example during the past asembly elections there were pray meetings 
> everywere
>
> ... and there are small  alternative places to go to meditate and to learn
> about spiritual subjects in order to  fight this reality  with 
> intangible
> weapons  because that is were the fight is located at intangible fields.
> Last week  I attended a seminar on interdimensionality, this concept  I
> believe it  is related to what you call the intangible.  From my point of
> view  it  is the main characteristic of  the intangible. It helped me to
> give a certain order to other concepts like those involve in your paper. 
> But
>
> another part is how the brain can become an interdimentional station for
> communication with the intangible....  Well I stop here, I would like to
> continue with this topic, many greetings, geisha
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 07:55:50 +0100
> From: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Intangible Presence
> To:
> [log in to unmask]<mailto:PRACTITIONER-RESEARCHER@JISCMA
> IL.AC.UK>
>
> Dear All,
>
> FYPI, I have just drafted the attached short paper, and intend shortly to
> post it to www.bestthinking.com<http://>.
>
> Warmest
>
> Alan
>
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