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Re: Refmac TLS plus experimental phase refinement failed

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Ethan Merritt <[log in to unmask]>

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Ethan Merritt <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Mon, 11 Oct 2010 11:48:15 -0700

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On Monday, October 11, 2010 01:04:49 pm Christian Roth wrote:
> Dear Ethan,
> 
> thanks for your fast answer. The pdb file does the trick.  I also did not click 
> the reset B-factor box, which I thought is equivalent to the TLS+Biso pdb. Is 
> that wrong?

For what you are doing, it is correct to not click the box.
I just wanted to confirm what were the steps leading to the observed failure.

> Every program has his special requirements and I mixed it up with a refinement 
> done some weeks before in phenix. 

So far as I know, there is still no provision in phenix for reading in
existing TLS parameters.  It always wants to regenerate them for itself.
This make it very hard, if not impossible, to compare refinement protocols
or validate previous refinements.

	Ethan

> I'm sorry about that and thanks again for your help
>  
> Christian
> 
> Am Montag 11 Oktober 2010 19:50:10 schrieb Ethan Merritt:
> > On Monday, October 11, 2010 11:01:10 am Christian Roth wrote:
> > > Dear all,
> > >
> > > I want refine my model using TLS plus phase information from experimental
> > > phases.
> > > I used the TLSMD server to generate the initial tls parameters and
> > > started Refmac
> > 
> > I don't know exactly what has gone wrong.
> > Let's collect some more information.
> > 
> > - When you took the intial TLS parameters from TLSMD server, did you also
> >   take the corresponding modified PDB file?
> >   If not, that could well be the problem.
> > 
> > - It looks from the output that you did not tick the "reset B factors to
> >  20" box in ccp4i.  Can you confirm that?
> > 
> > 	Ethan
> > 
> > > After an initial round of TLS refinement Refmac stops and and claims a
> > > problem but nevertheless writes at the end "Task completed successfully"
> > > and does not write any file despite it claims to have it done. I copied a
> > > part of the log file at the end of the mail
> > > Could anyone point me to the mistake i made probably?
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance
> > >
> > > Christian
> > >
> > >
> > > #CCP4I VERSION CCP4Interface 2.0.6
> > > #CCP4I SCRIPT LOG refmac5
> > > #CCP4I DATE 11 Oct 2010  17:37:30
> > > #CCP4I USER roth
> > > #CCP4I PROJECT sharpoutputrefinement
> > > #CCP4I JOB_ID 19
> > > #CCP4I SCRATCH /tmp
> > > #CCP4I HOSTNAME bbzws339.bbz.uni-leipzig.de
> > > #CCP4I PID 13018
> > >
> > > <B><FONT COLOR="#FF0000"><!--SUMMARY_BEGIN-->
> > > <html> <!-- CCP4 HTML LOGFILE -->
> > > <hr>
> > > <!--SUMMARY_END--></FONT></B>
> > > <B><FONT COLOR="#FF0000"><!--SUMMARY_BEGIN-->
> > > <pre>
> > >
> > >  ###############################################################
> > >  ###############################################################
> > >  ###############################################################
> > >  ### CCP4 6.1: Refmac_5.5.0109     version 5.5.0109 : 13/10/09##
> > >  ###############################################################
> > >  User: unknown  Run date: 11/10/2010 Run time: 17:37:30
> > >
> > >
> > >  Please reference: Collaborative Computational Project, Number 4. 1994.
> > >  "The CCP4 Suite: Programs for Protein Crystallography". Acta Cryst. D50,
> > > 760-763.
> > >  as well as any specific reference in the program write-up.
> > >
> > > <!--SUMMARY_END--></FONT></B>
> > >  $TEXT:Reference1: $$ comment $$
> > >    "Refinement of Macromolecular Structures by the  Maximum-Likelihood
> > > Method:" G.N. Murshudov, A.A.Vagin and E.J.Dodson,(1997)
> > >    Acta Crystallogr. D53, 240-255
> > >    EU  Validation contract: BIO2CT-92-0524
> > >
> > >  $$
> > >  $SUMMARY :Reference1:  $$ Refmac: $$
> > >
> > >  :TEXT:Reference1: $$
> > >
> > >   Data line--- make check NONE
> > >   Data line--- make     hydrogen ALL     hout NO     peptide NO    
> > > cispeptide NO     ssbridge YES     symmetry YES     sugar YES    
> > > connectivity NO link NO
> > >   Data line--- refi     type REST     PHASE SCBL  BBLU      resi MLKF    
> > > meth CGMAT     bref ISOT
> > >   Data line--- refi tlsc 10
> > >   Data line--- ncyc 25
> > >   Data line--- scal     type SIMP     LSSC     ANISO     EXPE
> > >   Data line--- solvent YES
> > >   Data line--- weight     MATRIX 0.1
> > >   Data line--- monitor MEDIUM     torsion 10.0     distance 10.0    
> > > angle 10.0     plane 10.0     chiral 10.0     bfactor 10.0     bsphere
> > > 10.0 rbond 10.0     ncsr 10.0
> > >   Data line--- labin  FP=FP SIGFP=SIGFP HLA=HLA HLB=HLB HLC=HLC HLD=HLD
> > > FREE=FreeR_flag
> > >   Data line--- labout  FC=FC FWT=FWT PHIC=PHIC PHWT=PHWT DELFWT=DELFWT
> > > PHDELWT=PHDELWT FOM=FOM PHCOMB=PHCOMB
> > >   Data line--- PNAME sharpoutputrefinement
> > >   Data line--- DNAME hrsync
> > >   Data line--- RSIZE 80
> > >   Data line--- END
> > >
> > >  OPENED INPUT MTZ FILE
> > >  Logical Name: HKLIN   Filename:
> > > /homes/roth/dlhdata/sharp/eden_unique.mtz
> > >
> > >
> > >  Spacegroup information obtained from library file:
> > >  Logical Name: SYMINFO   Filename:
> > > /software/linuxsoft/ccp4/ccp4-6.1.3/lib/data/syminfo.lib
> > >
> > >
> > >     ****           Input and Default parameters#            ****
> > >
> > >
> > > Input coordinate file.  Logical name - XYZIN actual file name  -
> > > /homes/roth/dlhdata/sharp/shrefmac9.pdb
> > > Output coordinate file. Logical name - XYZOUT actual file name -
> > > /homes/roth/dlhdata/sharp/shrefmac10.pdb
> > > Input reflection file.  Logical name - HKLIN actual file name  -
> > > /homes/roth/dlhdata/sharp/eden_unique.mtz
> > > Output reflection file. Logical name - HKLOUT actual file name -
> > > /homes/roth/dlhdata/sharp/eden_refmac3.mtz
> > >
> > > Cell from mtz :    61.560    69.500   133.350    90.000    90.000   
> > > 90.000 Space group from mtz: number -   19; name - P 21 21 21
> > >
> > >   Refinement type                        : Restrained
> > >
> > >
> > > ***TLS refinement cycle***    2
> > >
> > >            1
> > >   0.1153065      0.1254572      0.1168760      1.2506233E-02 
> > > 2.1331017E-03 1.5424690E-04
> > >  -1.4598943E-02 -3.3578421E-03 -1.7373050E-02 -3.3114674E-03
> > > -1.3628958E-02 -2.4346421E-03
> > >  -8.4016532E-02  4.1347187E-02 -0.1191208     -0.1013065     -0.1222848
> > > 0.1371335     -0.2420141      5.1373582E-02
> > >  -0.3787168
> > >  Problem
> > >  xyz         1107   48.64835       38.25826       83.76399      -34.85817
> > > 8.685342      -6.930134      -12.26284      -18.79212       3.157892
> > > 19.69073      -34.85817      0.6871372       23.66340     -0.3420097
> > > -0.5949482      0.7273692
> > > *************************************************************************
> > >** * Information from CCP4Interface script
> > > *************************************************************************
> > >** Writing final coordinates (XYZOUT) to
> > > /homes/roth/dlhdata/sharp/shrefmac10.pdb
> > > *************************************************************************
> > >**
> > >
> > > *************************************************************************
> > >** * Information from CCP4Interface script
> > > *************************************************************************
> > >** Writing final phases (HKLOUT) to
> > > /homes/roth/dlhdata/sharp/eden_refmac3.mtz
> > > *************************************************************************
> > >**
> > >
> > > *************************************************************************
> > >** * Information from CCP4Interface script
> > > *************************************************************************
> > >** Writing final TLS (TLSOUT) to
> > > /homes/roth/dlhdata/sharp/dlhtls_refmac1.tls
> > > *************************************************************************
> > >**
> > >
> > >
> > > #CCP4I TERMINATION STATUS 1
> > > #CCP4I TERMINATION TIME 11 Oct 2010  17:42:38
> > > #CCP4I TERMINATION OUTPUT_FILES
> > > /homes/roth/dlhdata/sharp/sharpoutputrefinement_19_hrsync.refmac.cif
> > > sharpoutputrefinement
> > > #CCP4I MESSAGE Task completed successfully
> > 
> 

-- 
Ethan A Merritt
Biomolecular Structure Center,  K-428 Health Sciences Bldg
University of Washington, Seattle 98195-7742

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